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Then Joe Biden should have just said he would do so, instead of saying in front of the press and everyone else that he would not pardon his son. So is it fair

by rvz 2y ago

Then Joe Biden should have just said he would do so, instead of saying in front of the press and everyone else that he would not pardon his son. So is it fair to say that Biden repeatedly lied in front of everyone?

dnissley 2y ago
Precisely. Would have been so much better if he had just sent a memo effectively saying: "He's my son, so I'm pardoning him, end of story. Sorry I lied about this, I genuinely regret it."
- rainworld 2y ago
  >I genuinely regret it. But he doesn’t regret anything. None of them ever do. Stop writing fan fiction, stop falling for the same lies and theater every 4/8 years and start facing the reality of how America is ruled.
jmye 2y ago
> is it fair to say that Biden …lied… Of course it is. So what?
archagon 2y ago
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- rvz 2y ago
  > It literally does not matter. So it somehow "literally does not matter" for Biden to lie to the country just because Trump also lies? That really is not a good excuse to ignore whatever lies Biden says since he and the democrats should know better. What else has Biden been lying to us about then?
  - archagon 2y ago
    Seems more to me that he changed his mind.
    - rvz 2y ago
      It was "literally" a lie. You already know it but you still choose to ignore that.
      - archagon 2y ago
        No, it was not "literally" a lie. I'm quite certain Biden would not have done this if the next president wasn't an authoritarian bully obsessed with violent revenge on those who wronged him.
        rvz 2y ago
        > No, it was not "literally" a lie. It was "literally" a lie. There is no defense on this.
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- onecommentman 2y ago
  This is known as the “tu quoque” rhetorical device, used for millennia and commonly viewed as a fallacious argument. There are a lot of places online that explain the concept. Just because your opponent has done the same thing doesn’t mean the original charge against you is invalid. Their hypocrisy does not invalidate their argument. Not supporting either Biden or Trump in their actions, but this isn’t the way to make a convincing argument. (Why aren’t they teaching rhetoric in schools?)
hulitu 2y ago
> Then Joe Biden should have just said he would do so, instead of saying in front of the press and everyone else that he would not pardon his son. Well, to his defence, he forgot. (i wish i was sarcastic)

by rvz 2y ago

dnissley 2y ago

Precisely. Would have been so much better if he had just sent a memo effectively saying: "He's my son, so I'm pardoning him, end of story. Sorry I lied about this, I genuinely regret it."

rainworld 2y ago
>I genuinely regret it. But he doesn’t regret anything. None of them ever do. Stop writing fan fiction, stop falling for the same lies and theater every 4/8 years and start facing the reality of how America is ruled.

jmye 2y ago

> is it fair to say that Biden …lied… Of course it is. So what?

archagon 2y ago

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rvz 2y ago
> It literally does not matter. So it somehow "literally does not matter" for Biden to lie to the country just because Trump also lies? That really is not a good excuse to ignore whatever lies Biden says since he and the democrats should know better. What else has Biden been lying to us about then?
- archagon 2y ago
  Seems more to me that he changed his mind.
  - rvz 2y ago
    It was "literally" a lie. You already know it but you still choose to ignore that.
    - archagon 2y ago
      No, it was not "literally" a lie. I'm quite certain Biden would not have done this if the next president wasn't an authoritarian bully obsessed with violent revenge on those who wronged him.
      - rvz 2y ago
        > No, it was not "literally" a lie. It was "literally" a lie. There is no defense on this.
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onecommentman 2y ago
This is known as the “tu quoque” rhetorical device, used for millennia and commonly viewed as a fallacious argument. There are a lot of places online that explain the concept. Just because your opponent has done the same thing doesn’t mean the original charge against you is invalid. Their hypocrisy does not invalidate their argument. Not supporting either Biden or Trump in their actions, but this isn’t the way to make a convincing argument. (Why aren’t they teaching rhetoric in schools?)

hulitu 2y ago

> Then Joe Biden should have just said he would do so, instead of saying in front of the press and everyone else that he would not pardon his son. Well, to his defence, he forgot. (i wish i was sarcastic)