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Previously on HN: [flagged] C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question' (slashdot.org) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=422262
by o11c 2y ago
Previously on HN:
[flagged] C++ Standards Contributor Expelled for 'The Undefined Behavior Question' (slashdot.org) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42226250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42226250 (84 points, 88 comments)
Edit:
Also, this PDF discussed on Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1h0ximn/firsthand_account_of_the_undefined_behavior/ https://old.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1h0ximn/firsthand_acco...
Wow, digging through the various threads, people are making a lot of claims (and counterclaims) made without any citation whatsoever, even when one should be easy to provide. At least Andrew Tomazos has the excuse of referring primarily to in-person incidents.
There should be theoretically-verifiable proof of the email chain Andrew cited, but actually verifying it would be difficult for most people. I do think Andrew should post it in full (including Message-ID headers) nonetheless, since making the claim "this message-id is fake" is a much riskier counterclaim.
- tranrk 2y ago> I do think Andrew should post it in full (including Message-ID headers) I find that whole thread quite disturbing. The hostility by the apparently well-connected towards someone defending himself is disgraceful. If he posts the whole messages, they'd accuse him of leaking private emails. The Reddit moderators rushing to the defense of their organizations is telling as well. Previously I thought that C++ was immune to this group think, but apparently it has been subverted, too. I wonder how many programmers are driven away from C++ by this episode.