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The best part is that every game that runs on the Steam Deck will run on any Linux desktop.

hedora 2y ago
I’ve hit a few counterexamples. Is there a good way to escalate bugs for them? (Most of the issues are in GPU firmware, fwiw.)
- Scramblejams 2y ago
  Look for an open issue for the game in question under here[0]. If one exists, add your report to it. If not, open a new one. [0] https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton/issues https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton/issues
stackskipton 2y ago
IME, it’s more a mixed bag. Some games run great on Linux or within Proton. Others seem to be more Steam Deck focused and as such, require more fiddling to get it to work.
- Scramblejams 2y ago
  If you’re using Nvidia you’re definitely going to have a harder time. AMD GPUs are the path of least resistance. Edit: Also, avoid the Steam flatpak if you want maximum compatibility, sometimes it has issues. I stick with the official .deb package.
  - stackskipton 2y ago
    Which my gaming PC has. I went from Windows 11, Ubuntu Latest and back to Windows 11.
    - Scramblejams 2y ago
      Sorry, which one does your PC have? But yeah, the Nvidia situation is a bummer. Hopefully NVK will do for Nvidia users what the open source amdgpu driver did for AMD users.
      - stackskipton 2y ago
        It's RTX 4070 Ti
        rounce 2y ago
        Have you tried the GE fork? I’ve found some things just won’t work with vanilla proton with my Nvidia card. https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom
        stackskipton 2y ago
        I'm done. I hate Windows 11 but my PC works with it installed so I'll just deal with Windows 11 minor bullshit vs fighting Proton and Nvidia.
- dingnuts 2y ago
  care to share any examples? your experience is the opposite of mine. I've been using the steam deck status as a shorthand for Linux support for a little while and if anything I've gotten a few games running that aren't supported, not the other way around. I have an AMD card though, because I always check Linux compatibility before buying hardware..
  - geor9e 2y ago
    Here's the list of games playable on Deck but generally not Linux https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilters=whitelisted&selectedFilters=excludeNative https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilt...
geor9e 2y ago
"every game". That's not true. You're confusing the two different badges Steam uses. One is the native Linux support badge. The other is the Steam Deck verified badge, meaning their custom build of Proton, and custom OS, and hardware specific compatibility fixes have made the (usually Windows native) game playable. It's a good sign for other Linux users, but even if you get the newest version of generic Proton and use Arch Linux and an AMD GPU, you're not going to be able to play every game that Deck can play. The community and valve engineers are giving the Deck the most attention for fixes.
- aaomidi 2y ago
  Do you have an example of a game that only runs on steam deck and nothing else?
  - geor9e 2y ago
    "and nothing else" - I just want to point out I never said this. My point was that there are thousands of combinations of linux distros, hardware models, and proton versions/settings, so just because it works on the super-popular combo doesn't mean it works on all. But here is a list of Deck Verified games with a lot of frustrated Linux users https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilters=whitelisted&selectedFilters=excludeNative https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilt...
    - aaomidi 2y ago
      Did a spot check of that list, and everything seems to be issues you'd run into on Steam Deck too - for what its worth. I've been running linux as my main OS since 2018ish now - I've personally not ran into games like what you mentioned but IDK there definitely is some, but I don't think in titles people are going to be playing.
mistyvales 2y ago
Been playing Steam games on Fedora and AMD GPU for over a year and haven't really run into any major issues. Never thought it would happen! I haven't booted into Windows in over six months
- hnbear 2y ago
  I wish I'd had the same experience, although I was using Pop not Fedora (based on some recommendations found online) I installed a couple of games, found that the performance was maybe only 60% of what I got on Windows and had to go back. I wish I could be linux only, but it just wasn't there for me. Running a 6900XT too.
  - tapoxi 2y ago
    Were you using the Flatpak? Apparently the sandboxing introduces performance issues.
    - hnbear 2y ago
      I can't remember, I gave it a go for a couple of days, switching between Win and Linux installs to make sure settings and the like where the same to be fair. In the end perf was bad, so wiped that drive and now it has more games on it.
      - tapoxi 2y ago
        I've been on Bazzite for a few months on my machine (7800 XT) with Windows on a secondary partition. Of the games I've tested Linux performance is identical, but Steam can precompile shaders in the background on Linux which eliminates compilation stutter.
mamcx 2y ago
And how is with Macos now? I see it is kinda supported, but ...
- sincarne 2y ago
  Give Whisky a shot. Yeah, it’s a 20 year old game, but I was able to get Half-Life 2 running at 1080p with all settings maxed on my Mac Mini. The only slow down I experienced was when a bunch of barrels exploded at the same time. https://getwhisky.app/ https://getwhisky.app/

I’ve hit a few counterexamples. Is there a good way to escalate bugs for them? (Most of the issues are in GPU firmware, fwiw.)

Scramblejams 2y ago
Look for an open issue for the game in question under here[0]. If one exists, add your report to it. If not, open a new one. [0] https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton/issues https://github.com/valvesoftware/proton/issues

stackskipton 2y ago

IME, it’s more a mixed bag. Some games run great on Linux or within Proton. Others seem to be more Steam Deck focused and as such, require more fiddling to get it to work.

Scramblejams 2y ago
If you’re using Nvidia you’re definitely going to have a harder time. AMD GPUs are the path of least resistance. Edit: Also, avoid the Steam flatpak if you want maximum compatibility, sometimes it has issues. I stick with the official .deb package.
- stackskipton 2y ago
  Which my gaming PC has. I went from Windows 11, Ubuntu Latest and back to Windows 11.
  - Scramblejams 2y ago
    Sorry, which one does your PC have? But yeah, the Nvidia situation is a bummer. Hopefully NVK will do for Nvidia users what the open source amdgpu driver did for AMD users.
    - stackskipton 2y ago
      It's RTX 4070 Ti
      - rounce 2y ago
        Have you tried the GE fork? I’ve found some things just won’t work with vanilla proton with my Nvidia card. https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom
        stackskipton 2y ago
        I'm done. I hate Windows 11 but my PC works with it installed so I'll just deal with Windows 11 minor bullshit vs fighting Proton and Nvidia.
dingnuts 2y ago
care to share any examples? your experience is the opposite of mine. I've been using the steam deck status as a shorthand for Linux support for a little while and if anything I've gotten a few games running that aren't supported, not the other way around. I have an AMD card though, because I always check Linux compatibility before buying hardware..
- geor9e 2y ago
  Here's the list of games playable on Deck but generally not Linux https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilters=whitelisted&selectedFilters=excludeNative https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilt...

geor9e 2y ago

"every game". That's not true. You're confusing the two different badges Steam uses. One is the native Linux support badge. The other is the Steam Deck verified badge, meaning their custom build of Proton, and custom OS, and hardware specific compatibility fixes have made the (usually Windows native) game playable. It's a good sign for other Linux users, but even if you get the newest version of generic Proton and use Arch Linux and an AMD GPU, you're not going to be able to play every game that Deck can play. The community and valve engineers are giving the Deck the most attention for fixes.

aaomidi 2y ago
Do you have an example of a game that only runs on steam deck and nothing else?
- geor9e 2y ago
  "and nothing else" - I just want to point out I never said this. My point was that there are thousands of combinations of linux distros, hardware models, and proton versions/settings, so just because it works on the super-popular combo doesn't mean it works on all. But here is a list of Deck Verified games with a lot of frustrated Linux users https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilters=whitelisted&selectedFilters=excludeNative https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted&selectedFilt...
  - aaomidi 2y ago
    Did a spot check of that list, and everything seems to be issues you'd run into on Steam Deck too - for what its worth. I've been running linux as my main OS since 2018ish now - I've personally not ran into games like what you mentioned but IDK there definitely is some, but I don't think in titles people are going to be playing.

mistyvales 2y ago

Been playing Steam games on Fedora and AMD GPU for over a year and haven't really run into any major issues. Never thought it would happen! I haven't booted into Windows in over six months

hnbear 2y ago
I wish I'd had the same experience, although I was using Pop not Fedora (based on some recommendations found online) I installed a couple of games, found that the performance was maybe only 60% of what I got on Windows and had to go back. I wish I could be linux only, but it just wasn't there for me. Running a 6900XT too.
- tapoxi 2y ago
  Were you using the Flatpak? Apparently the sandboxing introduces performance issues.
  - hnbear 2y ago
    I can't remember, I gave it a go for a couple of days, switching between Win and Linux installs to make sure settings and the like where the same to be fair. In the end perf was bad, so wiped that drive and now it has more games on it.
    - tapoxi 2y ago
      I've been on Bazzite for a few months on my machine (7800 XT) with Windows on a secondary partition. Of the games I've tested Linux performance is identical, but Steam can precompile shaders in the background on Linux which eliminates compilation stutter.

mamcx 2y ago

And how is with Macos now? I see it is kinda supported, but ...

sincarne 2y ago
Give Whisky a shot. Yeah, it’s a 20 year old game, but I was able to get Half-Life 2 running at 1080p with all settings maxed on my Mac Mini. The only slow down I experienced was when a bunch of barrels exploded at the same time. https://getwhisky.app/ https://getwhisky.app/