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Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. That said, it's the inevitable outcome of a more heterogeneous

by b800h 2y ago

Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. That said, it's the inevitable outcome of a more heterogeneous society.

rscho 2y ago
Well, of course the ongoing war does make for poor PR and bad rep, but when things will have settled down people will see it again as the truly compassionate way of thought it promotes.
bediger4000 2y ago
Can you elaborate on this? I presume you mean Christianity, but in the USA as of 2020, 63% identify as Christian. Clearly, identifying as Christian is not as as commonplace as in, say, 1950, but that doesn't mean its become unpopular. Just driving errands, I see very obviously Christian church buildings all over the place. I do not see synagogues or mosques or other religion's edifices. The author of this piece is Jewish, btw.
drewbug01 2y ago
> Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. Some of the cruelest, most selfish, and least compassionate people I have known have also been deeply religious; and some of the kindest, most loving, and most caring people I have known have also been deeply religious. I don’t think that the popularity of religion really has much to do with it either way.
Eddy_Viscosity2 2y ago
> Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. More likely its that those who claim to follow such a religion frequently act opposite to its purported teachings. Particularly when they are both rich and powerful. Sets the example that you tell people you are compassionate, but then act in a fully selfish way - its the proven route to success.
thiht 2y ago
People are driven away from Christianism because of bigotry and intolerance. The message of Jesus got lost somehow at some point for a significant part of Christians.
RGamma 2y ago
Religion tends to lead to maaany other problems as history and current Islamic republics amply prove. If one wants compassion and selflessness, one can choose those for their own sake. Otherwise you'll end up using excuses like wisdom of imaginary beings to make people believe stuff and behave according to your exegesis. That said, if non-cognitivism is true (and I believe it is), one can never deduce a canonical ethics, including one having properties like compassion, either. Biopsychosocial self-regulation is IMO the more interesting angle for looking at human behavior and practiced ethics... Things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism
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by b800h 2y ago

Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. That said, it's the inevitable outcome of a more heterogeneous society.

rscho 2y ago

Well, of course the ongoing war does make for poor PR and bad rep, but when things will have settled down people will see it again as the truly compassionate way of thought it promotes.

bediger4000 2y ago

Can you elaborate on this? I presume you mean Christianity, but in the USA as of 2020, 63% identify as Christian. Clearly, identifying as Christian is not as as commonplace as in, say, 1950, but that doesn't mean its become unpopular. Just driving errands, I see very obviously Christian church buildings all over the place. I do not see synagogues or mosques or other religion's edifices. The author of this piece is Jewish, btw.

drewbug01 2y ago

> Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. Some of the cruelest, most selfish, and least compassionate people I have known have also been deeply religious; and some of the kindest, most loving, and most caring people I have known have also been deeply religious. I don’t think that the popularity of religion really has much to do with it either way.

Eddy_Viscosity2 2y ago

> Can't help that the religion which emphasises compassion and selflessness has become unpopular. More likely its that those who claim to follow such a religion frequently act opposite to its purported teachings. Particularly when they are both rich and powerful. Sets the example that you tell people you are compassionate, but then act in a fully selfish way - its the proven route to success.

thiht 2y ago

People are driven away from Christianism because of bigotry and intolerance. The message of Jesus got lost somehow at some point for a significant part of Christians.

RGamma 2y ago

Religion tends to lead to maaany other problems as history and current Islamic republics amply prove. If one wants compassion and selflessness, one can choose those for their own sake. Otherwise you'll end up using excuses like wisdom of imaginary beings to make people believe stuff and behave according to your exegesis. That said, if non-cognitivism is true (and I believe it is), one can never deduce a canonical ethics, including one having properties like compassion, either. Biopsychosocial self-regulation is IMO the more interesting angle for looking at human behavior and practiced ethics... Things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism

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