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Interesting perspective. I’ve always had a distaste for Aristotle, preferring Plato, but after reading this I’m wondering if that stemmed more from the additio

Interesting perspective. I’ve always had a distaste for Aristotle, preferring Plato, but after reading this I’m wondering if that stemmed more from the additional lens of the person introducing him to me. Might have to revisit his work as my older self.

throw0101d 2y ago
A decent argument can be made that most of modern life is based of Aristotle's metaphysics: * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43277412-aristotle-s-revenge https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43277412-aristotle-s-rev... And that most 'Western values' are basically Christian in origin (with an undercurrent of Aristotle): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_(Holland_book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_(Holland_book) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_Wor... MacIntyre argues that when it comes to ethics, the only two viable options are Aristotle or Nietzsche: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue Certainly Plato is influential, but he doesn't seem to have any practical use in day-to-day life.
- jumpoddly 2y ago
  Interesting reads, thanks I think the broadest most practical day to day knowledge stems from Plato, née Socrates, “I do not think I know what I do not know”
  - mbivert 2y ago
    There are so many ways to practically apply Plato. The simplicity of his elocution, his use of systematic pauses when communicating — that's a common advice given to contemporary speakers — the relevancy of the cycle of political systems, that ancient Greeks were first taught sports and music to acquire psychological balance, a necessary prerequisite to efficient further studies, etc. Having knowledge of Plato & other old fellows, almost feels like cheating at life: it equips ones mind with knowledge and skills that has been deemed worthy by enough humans to help it endure for millennia. The people who don't know about them can't fathom how much they miss.
- PittleyDunkin 2y ago
  Plato had a lot more influence on the early church than Aristotle did. I'm not sure if that's true in the African churches, though. I for some reason associate Aristotle with the alexandrian church and with gnosticism (& with islam), at least until Aquinus.
  - throw0101d 2y ago
    > Plato had a lot more influence on the early church than Aristotle did. Yes, certainly in Augustine of Hippo. But I don't think the metaphysics (or ethics) has made it into modern era as much as Aristotle filtered through Aquinas.

throw0101d 2y ago

A decent argument can be made that most of modern life is based of Aristotle's metaphysics: * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43277412-aristotle-s-revenge https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43277412-aristotle-s-rev... And that most 'Western values' are basically Christian in origin (with an undercurrent of Aristotle): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_(Holland_book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_(Holland_book) * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_WEIRDest_People_in_the_Wor... MacIntyre argues that when it comes to ethics, the only two viable options are Aristotle or Nietzsche: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue Certainly Plato is influential, but he doesn't seem to have any practical use in day-to-day life.

jumpoddly 2y ago
Interesting reads, thanks I think the broadest most practical day to day knowledge stems from Plato, née Socrates, “I do not think I know what I do not know”
- mbivert 2y ago
  There are so many ways to practically apply Plato. The simplicity of his elocution, his use of systematic pauses when communicating — that's a common advice given to contemporary speakers — the relevancy of the cycle of political systems, that ancient Greeks were first taught sports and music to acquire psychological balance, a necessary prerequisite to efficient further studies, etc. Having knowledge of Plato & other old fellows, almost feels like cheating at life: it equips ones mind with knowledge and skills that has been deemed worthy by enough humans to help it endure for millennia. The people who don't know about them can't fathom how much they miss.
PittleyDunkin 2y ago
Plato had a lot more influence on the early church than Aristotle did. I'm not sure if that's true in the African churches, though. I for some reason associate Aristotle with the alexandrian church and with gnosticism (& with islam), at least until Aquinus.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > Plato had a lot more influence on the early church than Aristotle did. Yes, certainly in Augustine of Hippo. But I don't think the metaphysics (or ethics) has made it into modern era as much as Aristotle filtered through Aquinas.