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xenospn 2y ago
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endofreach 2y ago
I was wondering what about that comment offended you that much to assume OP is "nazi russophobe". The only thing i could think of that might be much more offensive than i interpret it, would be the "genetically preconditioned". To me, the "almost" made it seem like a figure of speech, an obvious exaggeration. Not that OP actually thinks that there is something up with the genom. But considering the bad things people say about russian people, and how it seems to have become totally acceptable for many to discriminate based on nationality, i can see how either i, as a non-russian person, might not be sensitive enough for the wording here, or, how russians are extra sensitive. In case my comment seems provocative, it is not meant like that at all. I want to learn about your honest perspective.
- protomolecule 2y ago
  Hi, your comment is not provocative. My interpretation of 'almost' is quite different from yours. To me it sounds like "Russians are genetically preconditioned, but I didn't say that". Of course he did. Try replacing Russians with Afro-Americans or Jews and see if it sounds okay to you. As for how a Russian sees it, remember that 85 years ago Germans decided that we are racially inferior and they need our living space[0][1]. 26 million of Soviet citizens died as the result[2]. Try comparing that number with the number of deaths in any present day war. Personally, my grandmother survived genocidal siege of Leningrad[3], where a million of civilians starved to death or died during evacuation, and another relative survived in a Nazi death camp.[4] That should explain the 'nazi' part of my comment. As for 'russophobe', that comes from the rest of his comment. It is factually incorrect and disparaging to Russians. I can unpack that if it's needed. Here is a fun bit: note the use of the same word 'almost' to downplay Russian revolutions of 1905 and 1917 along with rebellions in previous centuries. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum#Racial_ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum#Racial_ideology [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
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dang 2y ago
Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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I was wondering what about that comment offended you that much to assume OP is "nazi russophobe". The only thing i could think of that might be much more offensive than i interpret it, would be the "genetically preconditioned". To me, the "almost" made it seem like a figure of speech, an obvious exaggeration. Not that OP actually thinks that there is something up with the genom. But considering the bad things people say about russian people, and how it seems to have become totally acceptable for many to discriminate based on nationality, i can see how either i, as a non-russian person, might not be sensitive enough for the wording here, or, how russians are extra sensitive. In case my comment seems provocative, it is not meant like that at all. I want to learn about your honest perspective.

protomolecule 2y ago
Hi, your comment is not provocative. My interpretation of 'almost' is quite different from yours. To me it sounds like "Russians are genetically preconditioned, but I didn't say that". Of course he did. Try replacing Russians with Afro-Americans or Jews and see if it sounds okay to you. As for how a Russian sees it, remember that 85 years ago Germans decided that we are racially inferior and they need our living space[0][1]. 26 million of Soviet citizens died as the result[2]. Try comparing that number with the number of deaths in any present day war. Personally, my grandmother survived genocidal siege of Leningrad[3], where a million of civilians starved to death or died during evacuation, and another relative survived in a Nazi death camp.[4] That should explain the 'nazi' part of my comment. As for 'russophobe', that comes from the rest of his comment. It is factually incorrect and disparaging to Russians. I can unpack that if it's needed. Here is a fun bit: note the use of the same word 'almost' to downplay Russian revolutions of 1905 and 1917 along with rebellions in previous centuries. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum#Racial_ideology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum#Racial_ideology [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
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dang 2y ago

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html