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IMHO: What we need is not another Router, there are already plenty out there which work with OpenWRT. What we need are more "level3-"switches with 24/48 ports
by deknos 2y ago
IMHO:
What we need is not another Router, there are already plenty out there which work with OpenWRT.
What we need are more "level3-"switches with 24/48 ports which work well with OpenWRT.
The only really good thing about this is the price.
- fh973 2y agoSpeaking of which... anyone know why there don't seem to be any managed 2.5 Gbit switches / chipsets? Can we expect them in the foreseeable future?
- 9x39 2y agoMikrotik, Ubiquiti, TrendNet, Mokerlink and all the other Chinese brands usually have something in this space (4-48 port managed L2 or L3 switches). A lot of the chipsets are mentioned in reviews on sites like ServeTheHome. The sub-enterprise, prosumer, SOHO-type market is pretty strong, but OpenWRT isn't a part of it -- not sure if that was a requirement.
- fh973 2y agoAt least Microtik doesn't have a switch with 24+ 2.5GigE ports.
- 9x39 2y agoTrue, and I admit I didn't think that was a literal requirement, more so just the availability of "some" mGig or 10G ports. What would the use case be for 24px2.5G switches, you think? They seem rare. The "home network with a NAS" is typically served with a small 4-8p 10G, while the 2.5/5G switches (particularly high density ones) are more of a bridge for orgs that have a lot of AP density and to get more out of that physical cable plant as they upgrade to WiFi 6e/7 devices on those existing wires. Gaming motherboards ship with up to 2.5/5, but again, how many switchports are needed for the SOHO market, especially when users can chain a few smaller switches together? The price point for mostly/full mGig switches is almost an order of magnitude over what the prosumer/SOHO space prices at. UI offers a 48p but with only 16x2.5 ports at $1300. Cisco Meraki has 48p models with full mGig but that's $7-10k based on Google, and now you're out of prosumer/SOHO and squarely in enterprise platforms. Ultimately, I do think such switches will pop up, but it'll be a little in the future as those enterprise dollars drive the cost of chipsets and transceivers down. Just not there yet to have that density at SOHO prices.
- sliken 2y agoQNAP has the QSW-M2116P-2T2S-US. Has 16 ports of 2.5G, 2x10G (copper), and 2x10G SFP+. The 10G ports support 10G/5G/2.5G unlike the older 10G chipsets. Also has 280 watts of PoE. Goes for $700 or so.
- hamandcheese 2y agoHuge +1 to this. Managed switching with hardware offload is the only thing standing between me and a fully open source* homelab. I'm vaguely aware of some enterprise options. I want something quieter and reasonably power efficient. Price is no object within reason. I would pay low 4 figures for something equivalent to a Mikrotik CRS326, but with upstream kernel drivers and an X86 CPU. * I don't run libreboot or anything, I'm sure there's a fair bit of closed blobs in my lab, but almost all my devices can boot any standard Linux boot image.
- IgorPartola 2y agoWhat exactly would you use such a device for in a home lab environment?
- IYasha 2y agoIn my case, 410G + 241G switch fulfills needs of a home LAN in a typical house/apartment. To have it running some FOSS OS would be a dream.
- hamandcheese 2y agoMy desires are driven by ideology rather than any specific requirement. My needs are met by my Mikrotik CRS328, but I loathe all devices that I pay for but do not own (if I owned it, I could run software of my own choosing on it).
- IgorPartola 2y agoI meant more this: why do you need to manage 48 separate VLANs for a home lab?
- mulmen 2y ago48 ports, not 48 VLANS.
- hamandcheese 2y agoI'm not sure where you got 48 from. I need 4 or 5 VLANs. I need a little bit of PoE. I need a little bit of SFP+. I want it all to fit in 1U of rack space. The VLANs are to keep my network segmented: wan, management, internet of shit, trusted, testing.
- m463 2y agoopenwrt supports zyxel gs1900 with 12, 24, 48 ports and even poe