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Windows is less popular every year.

by sneak 2y ago

notimetorelax 2y ago
I looked at the graphs at Statista. I don’t think it’s so clear cut. Mobile OSs have pushed it down, but it seem to dominate PC market. Do you have a graph that shows its decline on computers, not mobile phones? Or in absolute unit counts?
- flir 2y ago
  I think that might be a bit of an unfair caveat. People do real work on mobile OSes. They shop and communicate on mobile OSes, and occasionally organise revolutions. (Although I'm not sure why "Netraft confirms, Windows is dying" is a useful comment here anyway. Windows is a behemoth.)
- lysace 2y ago
  https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202410 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide... There's a clear but slow trend on desktop. Jan 2009: 95.4% Windows Jan 2016: 85.2% Windows Jan 2024: 73.0% Windows In e.g. US it's going down faster, desktop market share now at 62%: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america#monthly-200901-202410 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-st...
saghm 2y ago
I feel confident in guessing that any net changes in Windows popularity have close to no relation to Microsoft's policies around trusted CA. The number of users who are worried about sketchy certificates being trusted by default are dwarfed by the number of users who don't have any idea what a "trusted CA" is but care about more "visible" things like UI changes, performance, and how hard Windows is pushing Edge and other things they don't want.
- l33t7332273 2y ago
  It’s not becoming the users that are the decision makers. A few CTOs could make decisions based on this
  - saghm 2y ago
    If the rationale in the parent comment for this behavior is correct, it sounds like a lot of people making the decision to use Windows are doing it _because_ of behavior like this, not in spite of it.
n144q 2y ago
You need to show statistics to prove that, not just throw the statement out there, possibly only based on the vibes on HN.

Windows is less popular every year.

by sneak 2y ago

Windows is less popular every year.

I looked at the graphs at Statista. I don’t think it’s so clear cut. Mobile OSs have pushed it down, but it seem to dominate PC market. Do you have a graph that shows its decline on computers, not mobile phones? Or in absolute unit counts?

flir 2y ago
I think that might be a bit of an unfair caveat. People do real work on mobile OSes. They shop and communicate on mobile OSes, and occasionally organise revolutions. (Although I'm not sure why "Netraft confirms, Windows is dying" is a useful comment here anyway. Windows is a behemoth.)
lysace 2y ago
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202410 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide... There's a clear but slow trend on desktop. Jan 2009: 95.4% Windows Jan 2016: 85.2% Windows Jan 2024: 73.0% Windows In e.g. US it's going down faster, desktop market share now at 62%: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america#monthly-200901-202410 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-st...

saghm 2y ago

I feel confident in guessing that any net changes in Windows popularity have close to no relation to Microsoft's policies around trusted CA. The number of users who are worried about sketchy certificates being trusted by default are dwarfed by the number of users who don't have any idea what a "trusted CA" is but care about more "visible" things like UI changes, performance, and how hard Windows is pushing Edge and other things they don't want.

l33t7332273 2y ago
It’s not becoming the users that are the decision makers. A few CTOs could make decisions based on this
- saghm 2y ago
  If the rationale in the parent comment for this behavior is correct, it sounds like a lot of people making the decision to use Windows are doing it _because_ of behavior like this, not in spite of it.

n144q 2y ago

You need to show statistics to prove that, not just throw the statement out there, possibly only based on the vibes on HN.