> So China burns coal, to generate power, at huge heat and transmission loses, to power “clean” EV cars That's one more on the climate change/EV bingo card. N

> So China burns coal, to generate power, at huge heat and transmission loses, to power “clean” EV cars That's one more on the climate change/EV bingo card. No they burn coal to generate the electricity they were already using for everything they did before they started buying all these EVs. Most of their new electricity generation in the past 3 years - when EV adoption has taken off - is from wind, solar, and hydro. [1] > A gasoline engine, runs for a very long lifetime now, and then immediately becomes high value scrap that can be used and sold immediately. No dangerous batteries to deal with. Right because all the dangerous byproducts in a gasoline car - the gasoline, various oils and lubricants - have already been used up and discarded into the environment. Gasoline cars have lead-acid batteries, and those are plenty dangerous and nasty. An EV battery goes into a recycling plant, just like an ICE car battery. The rest is equally high value scrap that can be used and sold immediately. You probably think lithium extraction is bad for the environment too, right? While ignoring oil spills, methane leaks, and damage and water pollution from fracking? 1. So China burns coal, to generate power, at huge heat and transmission loses, to power “clean” EV cars