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I’m also aware they won’t make the direct references and I’m willing to bet the OP is too. There are very few instances I can think of for the last 4 years whe

I’m also aware they won’t make the direct references and I’m willing to bet the OP is too. There are very few instances I can think of for the last 4 years where I heard anyone complaining like this about the general state of these things. There’s a few offenders I can think of, like Salesforce, but I haven’t heard from any non technical users especially about things like Gmail being slow or their browsers being too slow. Whet I often hear instead to be honest is people widely seem surprised when they have 200 tabs open in Chrome and everything still feels fast to them That’s not to say performance isn’t important, it really is, in fact I’m the performance czar where I work, I spend along time on optimizations and performance. However the acceptable performance threshold is dependent on the activity more than anything I’ve found. That’s why it’s such a big deal in e-commerce but people don’t seem to care as much for longer lived apps, otherwise Jira might actually be snappy Now of course there is a threshold regardless of app where it will things negatively, losing customers etc. and thus it shouldn’t be ignore either

tekla 2y ago
Then you are in a bubble. I was recently asked by my elderly parents why they are paying for 5g internet when the internet resources they use are so slow, slower than what they remember from 1997. They ask me to call our ISP because it makes no sense that the sites they have used for decades feel so slow All I could say was that there was nothing I could do.
- ToucanLoucan 2y ago
  Every time I use Facebook (which isn't many but still) I am re-shocked at how fucking SLOW it is. How many times I end up refreshing the page because some damn thing didn't connect quick enough, or maybe too quick and it wasn't ready, I'm not sure. YouTube is also great for this, like, 1/50 navigation clicks just results in a blank page with no error message. Ctrl-R to the rescue. Or the number of times Reddit's infinite scroll just... dies. Somewhere in the background, I don't know where. Like I can't think of any of these major platform websites where shit isn't just constantly tripping over it's own dick and breaking in often humorous but also just ridiculous ways.
  - no_wizard 2y ago
    Insulated market forces allow certain platforms to operate like this with very few overall repercussions. They also don’t represent the overall web. I think it would be more far to take a sum of websites used, as opposed to number of users.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  That is a bit of an uncommon situation. Given the prevalence of things like 5G internet is typical in more rural or underdeveloped areas, the vast majority of the population of which don’t live. It’s a valid concern (as I think performance always is to be clear) but the majority are not on higher latency / limited bandwidth connections like 5G internet service as their primary ISP delivery tech. Vast majority are in cable or fiber at this point, given urban saturation
maigret 2y ago
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-need-for-speed/ https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-need-for-speed/

tekla 2y ago

Then you are in a bubble. I was recently asked by my elderly parents why they are paying for 5g internet when the internet resources they use are so slow, slower than what they remember from 1997. They ask me to call our ISP because it makes no sense that the sites they have used for decades feel so slow All I could say was that there was nothing I could do.

ToucanLoucan 2y ago
Every time I use Facebook (which isn't many but still) I am re-shocked at how fucking SLOW it is. How many times I end up refreshing the page because some damn thing didn't connect quick enough, or maybe too quick and it wasn't ready, I'm not sure. YouTube is also great for this, like, 1/50 navigation clicks just results in a blank page with no error message. Ctrl-R to the rescue. Or the number of times Reddit's infinite scroll just... dies. Somewhere in the background, I don't know where. Like I can't think of any of these major platform websites where shit isn't just constantly tripping over it's own dick and breaking in often humorous but also just ridiculous ways.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  Insulated market forces allow certain platforms to operate like this with very few overall repercussions. They also don’t represent the overall web. I think it would be more far to take a sum of websites used, as opposed to number of users.
no_wizard 2y ago
That is a bit of an uncommon situation. Given the prevalence of things like 5G internet is typical in more rural or underdeveloped areas, the vast majority of the population of which don’t live. It’s a valid concern (as I think performance always is to be clear) but the majority are not on higher latency / limited bandwidth connections like 5G internet service as their primary ISP delivery tech. Vast majority are in cable or fiber at this point, given urban saturation

maigret 2y ago

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-need-for-speed/ https://www.nngroup.com/articles/the-need-for-speed/