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SnapDragon is a vastly improved version of Honeycrisp anyway. The only real issue with it is that only growers within New York State are allowed to grow it, so

SnapDragon is a vastly improved version of Honeycrisp anyway. The only real issue with it is that only growers within New York State are allowed to grow it, so it's not nearly as available.

matsemann 2y ago
Curious, is that something that can be enforced?
- gs17 2y ago
  They likely have a patent, although searching "apple snapdragon patent" mostly gets results involving Qualcomm. Edit: found the patent https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP22228 https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP22228
  - papercrane 2y ago
    Looks like Cornell owns the rights to the apple and are working exclusively with a NY apple growers collective to commercialize the apple. https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2013/08/snapdragon-and-rubyfrost-are-new-apple-varieties https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2013/08/snapdragon-and-ruby...
- aspenmayer 2y ago
  Doubtful? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proplifting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proplifting
- throwup238 2y ago
  Apple trees aren’t grown from seed because the offspring will have huge genetic variability and won’t resemble the parent. Instead they take a hardy rootstock species and graft scionwood from the fruit producing trees on to it. Once the apple variety is grown, repeating it without the graft is impractical and you can't just save seed from store bought apples and expect to get the same thing. An entire variety might be cloned from a single tree that produced the best fruit out of hundreds. For new designer varieties getting commercial access to the grafts usually requires signing contract that you won’t create and sell your own grafts so the creator can control who gets it.
nikole9696 2y ago
Oh man I found these once and just LOVED them.
JshWright 2y ago
Yeah, as a resident of NY apple country (I'm ~20 minutes from Beak & Skiff, frequently voted one of the best orchards in the country), SnapDragon is the way to go.

SnapDragon is a vastly improved version of Honeycrisp anyway. The only real issue with it is that only growers within New York State are allowed to grow it, so it's not nearly as available.

matsemann 2y ago

Curious, is that something that can be enforced?

gs17 2y ago
They likely have a patent, although searching "apple snapdragon patent" mostly gets results involving Qualcomm. Edit: found the patent https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP22228 https://patents.google.com/patent/USPP22228
- papercrane 2y ago
  Looks like Cornell owns the rights to the apple and are working exclusively with a NY apple growers collective to commercialize the apple. https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2013/08/snapdragon-and-rubyfrost-are-new-apple-varieties https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2013/08/snapdragon-and-ruby...
aspenmayer 2y ago
Doubtful? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proplifting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proplifting
throwup238 2y ago
Apple trees aren’t grown from seed because the offspring will have huge genetic variability and won’t resemble the parent. Instead they take a hardy rootstock species and graft scionwood from the fruit producing trees on to it. Once the apple variety is grown, repeating it without the graft is impractical and you can't just save seed from store bought apples and expect to get the same thing. An entire variety might be cloned from a single tree that produced the best fruit out of hundreds. For new designer varieties getting commercial access to the grafts usually requires signing contract that you won’t create and sell your own grafts so the creator can control who gets it.

nikole9696 2y ago

Oh man I found these once and just LOVED them.

JshWright 2y ago

Yeah, as a resident of NY apple country (I'm ~20 minutes from Beak & Skiff, frequently voted one of the best orchards in the country), SnapDragon is the way to go.