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> Recently there is evidence Toyota is either struggling on this metric. Quality problems or deliberate design intent change? I'm hoping they fix this. There's
by _huayra_ 2y ago
> Recently there is evidence Toyota is either struggling on this metric. Quality problems or deliberate design intent change?
I'm hoping they fix this. There's almost no other reason to buy a Toyota other than this reliability reputation.
It seems like the way to go now is a naturally-aspirated Subaru, which I ended up after all the Toyota dealers near me treated me like a chump (which apparently is common; Toyota doesn't have as much "say" over their dealers as other similar companies afaik). Subies have basically been iterations on the same engine for a decade (the FB series), and the brand cannot afford to do much goofy R&D. They're also still dealing with the head gasket reputation despite that being >10 years old at this point (almost 20).
- ddingus 2y agoYeah, a friend has a Suburu and we just had this same chat. My most recent buy was a golden era Toyota and the difference is notable when I look at current models.
- bigfatkitten 2y agoSubaru CVTs are not famous for their longevity.
- _huayra_ 2y agoI mean don't expect to beat on them, under-maintain them, etc, like one can a lot of older Toyota gear, but used within parameters, they have lasted my family (almost all of whom drive CVT Subies) well over 1m miles at this point without any big failure. Key thing is to change the CVT fluid at least at the 60k interval (some countries say to do it every 30k, but that seems excessive). The "it's a lifetime fluid" thing is a total lie; it's the "lifetime of the CVT", so when it grenades itself, that's its lifetime ¯\_(ツ)_/¯