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The night niche doesn't require artificial lighting though. Moonlight can be enough to have a decent understanding of one's surroundings, and then there's more

The night niche doesn't require artificial lighting though. Moonlight can be enough to have a decent understanding of one's surroundings, and then there's more than vision to navigate and be active. We wouldn't need a full species level evolution to be good at night life.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Moonlight can be enough to have a decent understanding of one's surroundings, and then there's more than vision to navigate and be active Decent for us. Great for our predators and prey. > We wouldn't need a full species level evolution to be good at night life. The point of the article, which granted is a hypothesis, is that the adaptations it would take to be good at night would make us no more than good during the day. Nature has clearly selected against jack of all trades species.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  On the day/night balance, I was looking at cats as an example of a species that sleeps in smaller chunks and splits activity all around night and day. Reading the article I thought there should be more weight given to behaviors different from sleep to adapt to the other niche, and also that being perfectly adapted to a niche doesn't sound like a benefit in the first place. My understanding is that most species have an evolution process slow enough that they never completely fit a niche but also have enough versatility to move around. I'm thinking dogs, bears, crows, racoons, migratory birds etc. where adaptation happens, but not to a degree they can't move out from their niche.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > I was looking at cats as an example of a species that sleeps in smaller chunks and splits activity all around night and day Cats are crepuscular. The niche hypothesis predicts they'd sleep most of the day and night. > not to a degree they can't move out from their niche No animal I know of can't survive outside its time niche.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Moonlight can be enough to have a decent understanding of one's surroundings, and then there's more than vision to navigate and be active Decent for us. Great for our predators and prey. > We wouldn't need a full species level evolution to be good at night life. The point of the article, which granted is a hypothesis, is that the adaptations it would take to be good at night would make us no more than good during the day. Nature has clearly selected against jack of all trades species.

makeitdouble 2y ago
On the day/night balance, I was looking at cats as an example of a species that sleeps in smaller chunks and splits activity all around night and day. Reading the article I thought there should be more weight given to behaviors different from sleep to adapt to the other niche, and also that being perfectly adapted to a niche doesn't sound like a benefit in the first place. My understanding is that most species have an evolution process slow enough that they never completely fit a niche but also have enough versatility to move around. I'm thinking dogs, bears, crows, racoons, migratory birds etc. where adaptation happens, but not to a degree they can't move out from their niche.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > I was looking at cats as an example of a species that sleeps in smaller chunks and splits activity all around night and day Cats are crepuscular. The niche hypothesis predicts they'd sleep most of the day and night. > not to a degree they can't move out from their niche No animal I know of can't survive outside its time niche.