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Just be careful of inventions assignments. If you live in the US you probably signed paperwork that says anything you invent or create is property of the compan

by auspex 2y ago

Just be careful of inventions assignments. If you live in the US you probably signed paperwork that says anything you invent or create is property of the company you work for. If you signed one of these and hack on the side… successful business could be owned by your previous company. You can always ask that they release the IP which requires the lawyers to officially sign it over to you. Before you quit your job make sure you own it.

herval 2y ago
that's not exactly how those work (they can claim an invention if it's done during work hours, with company equipment, in the business area of operation. Might differ from state to state, but that's the gist of those contracts
- spacemanspiff01 2y ago
  It varies by state, what you described is California's rules, which are by far the most permissive of moonlighting.
- jonas21 2y ago
  Note that it's an "or", not an "and": i.e. your employer can require you to assign the invention to them if it's done during work hours OR with company equipment OR related to the company's business. The full text in the California labor code is here: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB&sectionNum=2870 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio....
- coin 2y ago
  There’s only a few states (CA and few others) where the employer can’t claim IP developed on your own time and equipment. The other states absolutely can.
  - indieofone 2y ago
    Most indie developers are not developing IP of interest to anyone other than the indie. Without marketing and continued development the IP is of little value. Yes if you invent the next google in your spare time you could be in trouble. For this it’s best to get funding. At the lifestyle income level, your employer doesn’t have the time or money to waste on your passive income stream. Obviously don’t be cavalier about it, but this will just get you fired not sued.
    - herval 2y ago
      highly depends on your employer and your relationship to them. I've heard of cases of someone getting sued due to _an open source_ they maintained, simply out of pettiness.
      - indieofone 2y ago
        wow
indieofone 2y ago
I think it would only matter for something that is quite significant. And in that case, you would probably quit long before it mattered.
- saagarjha 2y ago
  Careful, you can still be sued by your past employer even after you quit.
  - indieofone 2y ago
    How can they prove when where and what. Ive never seen this happen and largely think its FUD.
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      I mean if you have git commits from that period it’s pretty easy to track it
      - indieofone 2y ago
        commit after hours or weekends

by auspex 2y ago

herval 2y ago

that's not exactly how those work (they can claim an invention if it's done during work hours, with company equipment, in the business area of operation. Might differ from state to state, but that's the gist of those contracts

spacemanspiff01 2y ago
It varies by state, what you described is California's rules, which are by far the most permissive of moonlighting.
jonas21 2y ago
Note that it's an "or", not an "and": i.e. your employer can require you to assign the invention to them if it's done during work hours OR with company equipment OR related to the company's business. The full text in the California labor code is here: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB&sectionNum=2870 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio....
coin 2y ago
There’s only a few states (CA and few others) where the employer can’t claim IP developed on your own time and equipment. The other states absolutely can.
- indieofone 2y ago
  Most indie developers are not developing IP of interest to anyone other than the indie. Without marketing and continued development the IP is of little value. Yes if you invent the next google in your spare time you could be in trouble. For this it’s best to get funding. At the lifestyle income level, your employer doesn’t have the time or money to waste on your passive income stream. Obviously don’t be cavalier about it, but this will just get you fired not sued.
  - herval 2y ago
    highly depends on your employer and your relationship to them. I've heard of cases of someone getting sued due to _an open source_ they maintained, simply out of pettiness.
    - indieofone 2y ago
      wow

indieofone 2y ago

I think it would only matter for something that is quite significant. And in that case, you would probably quit long before it mattered.

saagarjha 2y ago
Careful, you can still be sued by your past employer even after you quit.
- indieofone 2y ago
  How can they prove when where and what. Ive never seen this happen and largely think its FUD.
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    I mean if you have git commits from that period it’s pretty easy to track it
    - indieofone 2y ago
      commit after hours or weekends