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The article also says, During World War II, Hitler’s soldiers marched off to battle with field-gray editions of Friedrich Nietzsche’s works in their packs,

The article also says, During World War II, Hitler’s soldiers marched off to battle with field-gray editions of Friedrich Nietzsche’s works in their packs, and ordinary Germans were occasionally urged on with the philosopher’s words. Seems like 'little red book' vibes to me. On the other hand, do you really think Stalin faithfully represented Marx's ideas? There are many parallels between Stalin's approach to Marx and Hitler's to Nietzsche, even regarding obvious misintrepretation. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/nietzsche/ch04.htm https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/nietzsche/ch04... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_and_reception_of_Friedrich_Nietzsche#Nietzsche_and_fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_and_reception_of_F...

aguaviva 2y ago
Seems like 'little red book' vibes to me. Except the anecdote is painfully overstretched. Apparently that distribution was limited in scope, and only some 150k soldiers were given the 'little grey book' (Zarathustra) out of some 18 million who served in the Wehrmacht overall. So not that ubiquitous. Plus they were also given copies of the New Testament apparently, so what's that supposed to prove?
- medo-bear 2y ago
  I think I said enough to demonstrate that Nietsche's influence on fascism and nazim is quite concerning. Besides, Marxism has had a profound effect on western philosophy, social studies, and economics, and probably continues to this day in many indirect and possibly even direct ways. Not including any of the works by Karl Marx or Friedrich Engels is a huge omission in the ops article. > Plus they were also given copies of the New Testament apparently, so what's that supposed to prove? Oh Im definitely not saying that the Church (and religion in general) hasnt mind fucked millions of people accross generations and even gave outright support to fascism nazism and their offsprings. Look at the church's relationship with the ustashe regime in croatia and the estado novo in portugal as most obvious examples.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    I think I said enough to demonstrate that Nietsche's influence on fascism and nazim is quite concerning. I don't think you have actually, but let's give that a rest for now. But if even if you did -- what would that "concern" be?
    - medo-bear 2y ago
      > What would that "concern" be? Would you be concerned if Trump or Putin said that they are Nietzschean ?
      - aguaviva 2y ago
        No (and I don't see much value in hypotheticals, generally).
        medo-bear 2y ago
        Ok
        aguaviva 2y ago
        I still don't get what the "concern" is supposed to be. That Nietzsche's worldview was intrinsically fascist (or proto-fascist)?
        medo-bear 2y ago
        > Nietzsche's worldview was intrinsically fascist (or proto-fascist) Well done for seeing the truth
        aguaviva 2y ago
        Like video games cause violence, I guess.

aguaviva 2y ago

Seems like 'little red book' vibes to me. Except the anecdote is painfully overstretched. Apparently that distribution was limited in scope, and only some 150k soldiers were given the 'little grey book' (Zarathustra) out of some 18 million who served in the Wehrmacht overall. So not that ubiquitous. Plus they were also given copies of the New Testament apparently, so what's that supposed to prove?

medo-bear 2y ago
I think I said enough to demonstrate that Nietsche's influence on fascism and nazim is quite concerning. Besides, Marxism has had a profound effect on western philosophy, social studies, and economics, and probably continues to this day in many indirect and possibly even direct ways. Not including any of the works by Karl Marx or Friedrich Engels is a huge omission in the ops article. > Plus they were also given copies of the New Testament apparently, so what's that supposed to prove? Oh Im definitely not saying that the Church (and religion in general) hasnt mind fucked millions of people accross generations and even gave outright support to fascism nazism and their offsprings. Look at the church's relationship with the ustashe regime in croatia and the estado novo in portugal as most obvious examples.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  I think I said enough to demonstrate that Nietsche's influence on fascism and nazim is quite concerning. I don't think you have actually, but let's give that a rest for now. But if even if you did -- what would that "concern" be?
  - medo-bear 2y ago
    > What would that "concern" be? Would you be concerned if Trump or Putin said that they are Nietzschean ?
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      No (and I don't see much value in hypotheticals, generally).
      - medo-bear 2y ago
        Ok
        aguaviva 2y ago
        I still don't get what the "concern" is supposed to be. That Nietzsche's worldview was intrinsically fascist (or proto-fascist)?
        medo-bear 2y ago
        > Nietzsche's worldview was intrinsically fascist (or proto-fascist) Well done for seeing the truth
        aguaviva 2y ago
        Like video games cause violence, I guess.

The article also says, During World War II, Hitler’s soldiers marched off to battle with field-gray edi­tions of Friedrich Nietzsche’s works in their packs,

The article also says, During World War II, Hitler’s soldiers marched off to battle with field-gray edi­tions of Friedrich Nietzsche’s works in their packs,

The article also says, During World War II, Hitler’s soldiers marched off to battle with field-gray editions of Friedrich Nietzsche’s works in their packs,

The article also says, During World War II, Hitler’s soldiers marched off to battle with field-gray editions of Friedrich Nietzsche’s works in their packs,