In order to explain their position it would require a piece of paper larger than our universe. Larger than several copies of our universe. That's not an indict

In order to explain their position it would require a piece of paper larger than our universe. Larger than several copies of our universe. That's not an indictment of anything, it's just the nature of being. Probably the most useful here is Kabbalah. Once you intuit parts of that, hierarchies become irrelevant. Human power structures turn from ladders to bridges. It's deeply isolating.