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> You are converting a weapon to make it do something that it was not intended to do... Yes, they are actually. These are glock full auto switches, which if yo

> You are converting a weapon to make it do something that it was not intended to do... Yes, they are actually. These are glock full auto switches, which if you've ever seen a glock and you know how it works, you know how easy it is. Glock designed the handgun specifically to allow this, and they even manufacture switches themselves. I don't know why they're going out of their way to not inform people of what exactly is happening. People are buying or building a very easy to make gun, buying or building a very easy to make part and adding it to the gun. It's not something anyone can easily stop anywhere, but the last paragraph really gives you a clue. Canadian law enforcement understands that the phenomenon of growing violence in street crime is a cultural problem and pretty new in Canada at least in it's current form and in recent decades.

qball 2y ago
>Glock designed the handgun specifically to allow this, and they even manufacture switches themselves. It really isn't, though. The way these work is exploiting the fact that the backplate on the gun can be modified such that the out of battery safety (inside the gun) functions as an auto trip. Which, coincidentally, is why US (and to a point, Canadian) regulatory agencies do their best to consider guns with safeties like this machine guns. They shouldn't; horse has already left the barn with that one especially considering full automatic fire is de facto legal and (even when in cases when it isn't legal) is trivial to achieve with guns that aren't Glocks, and this is something gun laws in the entire rest of the world have tacitly acknowledged for decades. >People are buying Not anymore, they aren't; the purchase, sale, or transfer of handguns is banned in Canada. Not that that's stopping the gangs, but those bans have never been about stopping crime anyway. >I don't know why they're going out of their way to not inform people of what exactly is happening. Who the criminals are, and the route the guns take to even get there in the first place, is extremely politically inconvenient for the Canadian government as it relates to blatant policy missteps that now affect Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal.
- tzmudzin 2y ago
  > these bans have never been about stopping crime anyway. Genuinely curious European here: what in your view was their purpose?
  - qball 2y ago
    It may surprise you to know that Canada currently has more restrictive gun laws than any European country. It bans handguns, most modern rifles, and magazine size limits are very low, and treats down-converted rifles (from full-auto to semi-auto) as being full-auto. It additionally restricts the sale of pressure-bearing components for certain firearms and magazines, though you don't actually have to own the rifle it's a part of to buy it. We have a licensing scheme that takes roughly 6 months to issue you a license, and special transport rules for handguns and short rifles. We don't have gangs from the East smuggling in machine guns; and most crime guns come from an intentionally-porous border. However, guns are a cultural flashpoint in most of the New World in ways they just aren't in most European countries. Part of this is an export of US politics, where sub-polities who want to ban guns are in a constant and bitter culture war with those that do not; Canadians copy a lot of US politics along whatever fault lines they happen to be on (currently, it's largest cities vs. everyone else). It's also a filter bubble problem, where the polities and voters that don't see guns as an issue are several thousand kilometers away from those that do (100km is a daily commute for us, but it can be the other side of the country for you), so you're not going to be exposed to 'normal' people on the other side. >what in your view was their purpose? Revenge. The sitting government did not like the fact that people from several thousand kilometers away came and protested certain edicts pertaining to a novel cold virus; those people are most likely to own guns. This was simply a "fuck you". There are no problems with the crime rate here; other than that which the sitting government has encouraged with their policies, but European countries all have that problem too and for the same reason. Which makes people want guns -> government doesn't like that -> government limits that ability, naturally.
    - crustycoder 2y ago
      > It may surprise you to know that Canada currently has more restrictive gun laws than any European country. It certainly would, as it's not true.
bryanlarsen 2y ago
> at least in it's current form and in recent decades. That's an important caveat. The crime and gangs problem were both larger in the 70's than it is today.
- sincerecook 2y ago
  Why is that important?

qball 2y ago

>Glock designed the handgun specifically to allow this, and they even manufacture switches themselves. It really isn't, though. The way these work is exploiting the fact that the backplate on the gun can be modified such that the out of battery safety (inside the gun) functions as an auto trip. Which, coincidentally, is why US (and to a point, Canadian) regulatory agencies do their best to consider guns with safeties like this machine guns. They shouldn't; horse has already left the barn with that one especially considering full automatic fire is de facto legal and (even when in cases when it isn't legal) is trivial to achieve with guns that aren't Glocks, and this is something gun laws in the entire rest of the world have tacitly acknowledged for decades. >People are buying Not anymore, they aren't; the purchase, sale, or transfer of handguns is banned in Canada. Not that that's stopping the gangs, but those bans have never been about stopping crime anyway. >I don't know why they're going out of their way to not inform people of what exactly is happening. Who the criminals are, and the route the guns take to even get there in the first place, is extremely politically inconvenient for the Canadian government as it relates to blatant policy missteps that now affect Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal.

tzmudzin 2y ago
> these bans have never been about stopping crime anyway. Genuinely curious European here: what in your view was their purpose?
- qball 2y ago
  It may surprise you to know that Canada currently has more restrictive gun laws than any European country. It bans handguns, most modern rifles, and magazine size limits are very low, and treats down-converted rifles (from full-auto to semi-auto) as being full-auto. It additionally restricts the sale of pressure-bearing components for certain firearms and magazines, though you don't actually have to own the rifle it's a part of to buy it. We have a licensing scheme that takes roughly 6 months to issue you a license, and special transport rules for handguns and short rifles. We don't have gangs from the East smuggling in machine guns; and most crime guns come from an intentionally-porous border. However, guns are a cultural flashpoint in most of the New World in ways they just aren't in most European countries. Part of this is an export of US politics, where sub-polities who want to ban guns are in a constant and bitter culture war with those that do not; Canadians copy a lot of US politics along whatever fault lines they happen to be on (currently, it's largest cities vs. everyone else). It's also a filter bubble problem, where the polities and voters that don't see guns as an issue are several thousand kilometers away from those that do (100km is a daily commute for us, but it can be the other side of the country for you), so you're not going to be exposed to 'normal' people on the other side. >what in your view was their purpose? Revenge. The sitting government did not like the fact that people from several thousand kilometers away came and protested certain edicts pertaining to a novel cold virus; those people are most likely to own guns. This was simply a "fuck you". There are no problems with the crime rate here; other than that which the sitting government has encouraged with their policies, but European countries all have that problem too and for the same reason. Which makes people want guns -> government doesn't like that -> government limits that ability, naturally.
  - crustycoder 2y ago
    > It may surprise you to know that Canada currently has more restrictive gun laws than any European country. It certainly would, as it's not true.

bryanlarsen 2y ago

> at least in it's current form and in recent decades. That's an important caveat. The crime and gangs problem were both larger in the 70's than it is today.

sincerecook 2y ago
Why is that important?