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o7 thanks, people like this who do not work in contexts with problems that React solves yet insist React is not solving problems are profoundly boring.

hu3 2y ago
No need for personal attacks. And there's also the other side: people who insist in overusing React. Perhaps that's what the author refers to. I for one have see HTMX eat React for breakfast in a few of my clients during consulting.
- synergy20 2y ago
  Really? HTMX for me brings spaghetti code on the server side. Fine for small projects but not so for large ones. I would prefer the clear separation between frontend and backend beyond small scale projects.
  - wordofx 2y ago
    React does not create a clear separation. Anyone who claims that hasn’t worked on any react bigger than a todo list. If you struggle with backend code then you’re just not a good backend developer. Maybe just stick to HTML/CSS.
- ganksalot 2y ago
  > No need for personal attacks. i don't know about all that, but this is an incredibly tired diatribe. > Perhaps that's what the author refers to. they are clearly not.
  - sakesun 2y ago
    They are clearly not. "In short, nobody should start a new project in the 2020s based on React. Full stop."
- wiseowise 2y ago
  > I for one have see HTMX eat React for breakfast in a few of my clients during consulting. What about the rest of them?
fiddlerwoaroof 2y ago
I spent a lot of time working on react applications of one kind or another and I think most businesses don’t have “problems that React solves” for their frontends. Somewhere that’s actually an application might, but most line of business applications would be better as something like Rails views rather than React
- ganksalot 2y ago
  > I think most businesses don’t have “problems that React solves” for their frontends. that is neither here nor there. you are replying to an article whose thrust is that react ought never be used. > Somewhere that’s actually an application might might, lol? wait are you the author? > most line of business applications would be better as something like Rails views rather than React why?
  - fiddlerwoaroof 2y ago
    Because, for most business applications I've worked on, React just complicates the frontend code compared to serving up simple HTML views and for no real benefit aside from "using React"

hu3 2y ago

No need for personal attacks. And there's also the other side: people who insist in overusing React. Perhaps that's what the author refers to. I for one have see HTMX eat React for breakfast in a few of my clients during consulting.

synergy20 2y ago
Really? HTMX for me brings spaghetti code on the server side. Fine for small projects but not so for large ones. I would prefer the clear separation between frontend and backend beyond small scale projects.
- wordofx 2y ago
  React does not create a clear separation. Anyone who claims that hasn’t worked on any react bigger than a todo list. If you struggle with backend code then you’re just not a good backend developer. Maybe just stick to HTML/CSS.
ganksalot 2y ago
> No need for personal attacks. i don't know about all that, but this is an incredibly tired diatribe. > Perhaps that's what the author refers to. they are clearly not.
- sakesun 2y ago
  They are clearly not. "In short, nobody should start a new project in the 2020s based on React. Full stop."
wiseowise 2y ago
> I for one have see HTMX eat React for breakfast in a few of my clients during consulting. What about the rest of them?

fiddlerwoaroof 2y ago

I spent a lot of time working on react applications of one kind or another and I think most businesses don’t have “problems that React solves” for their frontends. Somewhere that’s actually an application might, but most line of business applications would be better as something like Rails views rather than React

ganksalot 2y ago
> I think most businesses don’t have “problems that React solves” for their frontends. that is neither here nor there. you are replying to an article whose thrust is that react ought never be used. > Somewhere that’s actually an application might might, lol? wait are you the author? > most line of business applications would be better as something like Rails views rather than React why?
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y ago
  Because, for most business applications I've worked on, React just complicates the frontend code compared to serving up simple HTML views and for no real benefit aside from "using React"