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This was made before 1899 (or whatever the cutoff date is), and it’s black powder. The ATF does not consider this a firearm.

• dmoy 2y ago
  Pedantically, it would be considered an "antique firearm". Still a firearm, but basically unregulated
  • voxic11 2y ago
    > (3) The term “firearm” means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm. according to the law antique firearms are not firearms.
    • edgineer 2y ago
      And at one time a 14-inch long shoestring with a loop at each end was a "machinegun." https://web.archive.org/web/20050313043608/https://jpfo.org/shoestring.jpg https://web.archive.org/web/20050313043608/https://jpfo.org/...
      • bbatha 2y ago
        That’s an incredibly biased reading of that. It’s the gun + 14” of shoe string attached to the trigger enabling automatic fire that’s the machine gun not the string on its own.
        • edgineer 2y ago
          No, this 2004 letter specifies that the string with loops on its own, because it was designed to be used to modify a rifle to fire automatically, was a machinegun. Three years later, in 2007 the ATF decided differently, "Upon further review, we have determined that the string by itself is not a machinegun..." https://everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/01/25/shoestring-machine-gun/comment-page-1/ https://everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/01/25/shoestring-machine-...
  • 15155 2y ago
    Black powder deflagrates, it doesn't detonate (explode.)