4 ms·

37% didn’t vote. Trump got 32%. Harris got 31%. There is no silent majority. You get called a Nazi if you think immigrants or transgenders are the problem and

37% didn’t vote. Trump got 32%. Harris got 31%. There is no silent majority. You get called a Nazi if you think immigrants or transgenders are the problem and not wealthy billionaires manipulating our national media.

lelanthran 2y ago
> 37% didn’t vote. Trump got 32%. Harris got 31%. Isn't that in agreement with what I said? What did you think I meant by "half the voters" > There is no silent majority. I never said there was. I said there's a very vocal minority, the phrasing of which I thought clearly indicated that it wasn't 100% Harris voters who were that vocal minority. > You get called a Nazi if you think immigrants or transgenders are the problem Well, yeah; that's kinda the problem - that's not what the word "Nazi" meant, but now it's so diluted that it gets applied to fully half the voters, by a tiny minority of people who are very very vocal. I mean, I stepped into this thread saying that the meaning of "Nazi" has been diluted, and in response you say that people who have a problem with illegal immigration are Nazis? Are you serious? If people concerned about illegal immigration are actual Nazis, how the fuck are we to describe people running concentration camps, gas chambers and genocide?
- ChicagoDave 2y ago
  The entire immigration argument is racist and based on Trump's "Mexican rapists" diatribe from 2015, which he doubled down on this year. No one remembers that Reagan signed an immigration law that gave 10 million immigrants a path to citizenship. "Illegal immigration" is never about drugs or crime. It's about brown people "invading" our "white" country. Read anything about Stephen Miller's thoughts and you'll understand he literally wants to "reverse" the trend of minority "growth" in our country ... at ANY cost. We are a nation of immigrants and undocumented workers have a massive positive impact on our economy. This is a fact. People come to our country because of what we sell, which is the "land of opportunity" and ruled by laws. And the second someone crosses the border and says, "I'm seeking asylum," they are no longer "illegal". They are simply undocumented. So, I have serious doubts about anyone saying they're against immigrants and that it's coming from a racist (even minimally) perspective. Racism is a core tenant of Nazism and Fascism.
  - lelanthran 2y ago
    > So, I have serious doubts about anyone saying they're against immigrants and that it's coming from a racist (even minimally) perspective. Racism is a core tenant of Nazism and Fascism. Once again, I have to point out that you're equivocating "Racist" and "Nazi". If you're going to use the term "Nazi" for all racists, what word do you propose to use for the genocidal, gas-chamber-loving actual Nazis?
    - ChicagoDave 2y ago
      They are all Nazis. There is no “level”. The KKK are essentially Nazis. White Christian Nationalism is Nazism.
hitekker 2y ago
You said the word Nazi wasn't diluted, and then you implied the GP is a Nazi. It seems dishonest and, unfortunately, weakens the power of those labels even more.

lelanthran 2y ago

> 37% didn’t vote. Trump got 32%. Harris got 31%. Isn't that in agreement with what I said? What did you think I meant by "half the voters" > There is no silent majority. I never said there was. I said there's a very vocal minority, the phrasing of which I thought clearly indicated that it wasn't 100% Harris voters who were that vocal minority. > You get called a Nazi if you think immigrants or transgenders are the problem Well, yeah; that's kinda the problem - that's not what the word "Nazi" meant, but now it's so diluted that it gets applied to fully half the voters, by a tiny minority of people who are very very vocal. I mean, I stepped into this thread saying that the meaning of "Nazi" has been diluted, and in response you say that people who have a problem with illegal immigration are Nazis? Are you serious? If people concerned about illegal immigration are actual Nazis, how the fuck are we to describe people running concentration camps, gas chambers and genocide?

ChicagoDave 2y ago
The entire immigration argument is racist and based on Trump's "Mexican rapists" diatribe from 2015, which he doubled down on this year. No one remembers that Reagan signed an immigration law that gave 10 million immigrants a path to citizenship. "Illegal immigration" is never about drugs or crime. It's about brown people "invading" our "white" country. Read anything about Stephen Miller's thoughts and you'll understand he literally wants to "reverse" the trend of minority "growth" in our country ... at ANY cost. We are a nation of immigrants and undocumented workers have a massive positive impact on our economy. This is a fact. People come to our country because of what we sell, which is the "land of opportunity" and ruled by laws. And the second someone crosses the border and says, "I'm seeking asylum," they are no longer "illegal". They are simply undocumented. So, I have serious doubts about anyone saying they're against immigrants and that it's coming from a racist (even minimally) perspective. Racism is a core tenant of Nazism and Fascism.
- lelanthran 2y ago
  > So, I have serious doubts about anyone saying they're against immigrants and that it's coming from a racist (even minimally) perspective. Racism is a core tenant of Nazism and Fascism. Once again, I have to point out that you're equivocating "Racist" and "Nazi". If you're going to use the term "Nazi" for all racists, what word do you propose to use for the genocidal, gas-chamber-loving actual Nazis?
  - ChicagoDave 2y ago
    They are all Nazis. There is no “level”. The KKK are essentially Nazis. White Christian Nationalism is Nazism.

hitekker 2y ago

You said the word Nazi wasn't diluted, and then you implied the GP is a Nazi. It seems dishonest and, unfortunately, weakens the power of those labels even more.