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The ongoing Ukraine war is what prevents these countries from being invaded now. Winning that war by destroying Russia’s ability to produce conventional weapons

by vonnik 2y ago

The ongoing Ukraine war is what prevents these countries from being invaded now. Winning that war by destroying Russia’s ability to produce conventional weapons, and exhausting its supply of military age men, will protect these countries and NATO for at least a decade. Which is time Europe needs to prepare.

Retric 2y ago
NATO would already crush Russia in a purely conventional war several times over. However, posturing can be a lot cheaper than conflict.
- mathgeek 2y ago
  Unfortunately it takes both (all?) sides to keep a war conventional.
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- Ylpertnodi 2y ago
  >NATO would already crush Russia in a purely conventional war several times over. However, .....no nato country (or alliance therein) wants to deal with the shitshow that would follow, immediately- or longterm, afterwards.
- rayrey 2y ago
  With the new Trump admin, it would seem more feasible for Russia to go nuclear early. Unless the UK and France decide to step in, I doubt the the US nuclear umbrella would be in effect after 1/20
- Yeul 2y ago
  We know that England and France would have crushed Hitler in 1937. Sadly war is influenced by politics and when people want peace at any price dictators can get away with setting the world on fire.
pessimizer 2y ago
> The ongoing Ukraine war is what prevents these countries from being invaded now. What prevented them from being invaded before the Ukraine war?
- daliusd 2y ago
  NATO
  - pessimizer 2y ago
    Are you sure it wasn't a complete lack of interest in invading them?
    - kelseyfrog 2y ago
      Very sure
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    - daliusd 2y ago
      Pretty sure. I am from Lithuania (Baltic country) and here some reasons why Russia might find us worthy to occupy again: it is hard to defend Baltic countries from Russia, we were ruining Russia’s image before it was cool to do, Suwalki corridor
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      Very sure. It does seem quite likely that, by the time Putin made the decision he did in 2022 -- if he could have also grabbed the Baltics, he would have.

by vonnik 2y ago

Retric 2y ago

NATO would already crush Russia in a purely conventional war several times over. However, posturing can be a lot cheaper than conflict.

mathgeek 2y ago
Unfortunately it takes both (all?) sides to keep a war conventional.
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  [deleted]
Ylpertnodi 2y ago
>NATO would already crush Russia in a purely conventional war several times over. However, .....no nato country (or alliance therein) wants to deal with the shitshow that would follow, immediately- or longterm, afterwards.
rayrey 2y ago
With the new Trump admin, it would seem more feasible for Russia to go nuclear early. Unless the UK and France decide to step in, I doubt the the US nuclear umbrella would be in effect after 1/20
Yeul 2y ago
We know that England and France would have crushed Hitler in 1937. Sadly war is influenced by politics and when people want peace at any price dictators can get away with setting the world on fire.

pessimizer 2y ago

> The ongoing Ukraine war is what prevents these countries from being invaded now. What prevented them from being invaded before the Ukraine war?

daliusd 2y ago
NATO
- pessimizer 2y ago
  Are you sure it wasn't a complete lack of interest in invading them?
  - kelseyfrog 2y ago
    Very sure
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  - daliusd 2y ago
    Pretty sure. I am from Lithuania (Baltic country) and here some reasons why Russia might find us worthy to occupy again: it is hard to defend Baltic countries from Russia, we were ruining Russia’s image before it was cool to do, Suwalki corridor
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    Very sure. It does seem quite likely that, by the time Putin made the decision he did in 2022 -- if he could have also grabbed the Baltics, he would have.