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"The Norwegian information also talks about how to survive for three days without power" I mean canned food etc is useful but you wouldn't even die from starva

• mantas 2y ago
  Standing outside wouldn’t work for a good portion of the year…
• Maxion 2y ago
  In most of the Nordics a significant portion of the population would easily die after around 12-24 hours of no power for large parts of the year. It's very goddamned cold up here.
  • SoftTalker 2y ago
    In the places where people actually live in large numbers it's not quite that severe, but yes it can get cold.
    • Maxion 2y ago
      Old and young children, especially those living in cities or apartments would be in real trouble if heating cut out. They might not own enough thick blankets, and do not have alternative ways of heating their home.
      • b112 2y ago
        Good grief. Blankets?! I don't know anyone that doesn't have a proper winter coat, gloves, boots, hat and so on. Inside, you're away from the biting wind, and the elements. It's literally not problem unless you're very sick.
        • mathgeek 2y ago
          The pamphlet mentions both warm winter clothing and blankets as good to have ready. There’s no recommendation to have one and not the other.
          • b112 2y ago
            It's just so weird. Everyone has a blanket on their bed. If not that, a thick comforter type thing. You can actually put on more than one shirt too. If it's super cold, you can put on more than one pair of pants. You can put on more than one pair of socks. If you're strange and your bed doesn't have blankets, you can put clothes over your bed. Most people have 5 to 10 pairs of pants, and a dozen shirts, a few sweaters. Put those on when awake + your winter coat. Put those clothes on the bed when sleeping. Works like a charm.
            • mathgeek 2y ago
              “Most people are prepared” is a great situation. Regardless, we still see folks in vulnerable situations die when the power goes out in extreme heat or cold. The minority that aren’t or can’t be prepared are the ones that need these guides most.
              • b112 2y ago
                Heat is typically a problem, you can only take off so many clothes. Cold typically isn't when at home. That why I have this reaction. You can just put on more and more clothes. There are ways to keep warm. Most deaths from cold are outside, where there are no supplies.
• danlugo92 2y ago
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• ACS_Solver 2y ago
  It's cold here in Scandinavia. Nighttime temperatures are below freezing for half a year in a good chunk of the land. Winters are in general cold for a significant part of the population, three days without heating would be a serious danger if you don't know how to keep your home (relatively) warm in an emergency. When outside temperatures are around -15C, a house with no power can easily get cold enough to risk hypothermia. And in the winter, -30C is perfectly ordinary.
  • blub 2y ago
    I struggle to think of a way of keeping an entire house or apartment warm without power. Is there an actual solution recommended by the respective governments for this or was the problem reformulated into keeping one or more persons warm instead?
    • askonomm 2y ago
      I figure we'd all just go to the country side, where people still have houses with chimneys that use wood for heat, and hope we fit.
    • LinuxBender 2y ago
      Home design helps. I'm in a very old earth bermed home and even if the temperature outside is -25F (-31.3C) the coldest it gets if I don't have the heat on is about 42F (5.5C) and that's just because my windows are really old and the door weather strip is decomposing. If I throw a few logs in the wood stove it can get too hot. I doubt there are many earth bermed apartments however. I would probably just put on my snow pants, jacket, hat. Snow rated clothing make a big difference. That is what I would stock up on along with other layers underneath. If I had to sleep outside I would add a tarp, a lot of rocks and some paracord. Not saying it would be fun.
      • fn-mote 2y ago
        > If I had to sleep outside I would add a tarp […] Outside you need to add something to insulate you from heat loss to the ground or it is colder than you would want. Instead of rocks (I’m sure that was a joke), add closed cell insulation, like polystyrene. Five cm of that beneath you, and you will sleep warm and toasty.
• sebtron 2y ago
  > you wouldn't even die from starvation if you stood outside for that amount of time Right, you would die of hypothermia much earlier
• potato3732842 2y ago
  They're not worried about you dying in five days. They're worried about breakdown of law and order.