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Most of the papers in machine learning are coming from China. The vast majority. Most of the open source models on GitHub, too. Hailuo, Kling, Vidu, and Hunyu
by echelon 2y ago
Most of the papers in machine learning are coming from China. The vast majority.
Most of the open source models on GitHub, too.
Hailuo, Kling, Vidu, and Hunyuan (posted on Banodoko) blow Sora and Runway out of the water.
China is dominating at this field. And if they begin releasing weights as open source, that'll mean foundation model companies can only bank on the thin facade of product. That's a really good strategy to make sure American AI startups don't achieve escape velocity if they have to fend of dozens of fungible clones.
- imdsm 2y agoAre they making breakthroughs or are they taking what exists and copying/marginally improving?
- FooBarWidget 2y ago"taking what exists and marginally improving" You just described most scientific progress. Real breakthroughs only happen in the newspapers and movies.
- cma 2y agoI think they had the earliest paper with the modern take on scaling laws, from Baidu about 3 years before the similar paper from the US.
- cscurmudgeon 2y agoQuantity of papers is really not a good measure. > that'll mean foundation model companies can only bank on the thin facade of product. The “facade” of product tested in the real world in the hands of millions or billions is better than thousands of unread/uncited/clique-cited papers using questionable gameable benchmarks.
- vixen99 2y agoI don't know enough to comment but can someone downvoting this please explain why they are doing so? Is it untrue, an exaggeration, something else or maybe simply an observation they don't like to see.
- immibis 2y agoPeople really don't like to see that China has surpassed the USA in technology. It was the USA's main advantage - that and firepower.
- stavros 2y ago> That's a really good strategy to make sure American AI startups don't achieve escape velocity if they have to fend of dozens of fungible clones. A strategy pioneered by Meta.
- michaelt 2y agoI don't know why you're getting downvoted. Anyone actually reading papers in this area knows there's a lot of interesting work coming out of Chinese universities. For many years, American immigration policy has meant a PhD is particularly beneficial to immigrants, with predictable effects on who earns PhDs [1]. It's no surprise that, when industry needs advanced degrees and people who can read and write papers, we find author lists full of one-syllable surnames. [1] https://cra.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/2023-CRA-Taulbee-Survey-Report.pdf https://cra.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/2023-CRA-Taulbee-...