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>The article cites Russian involvement again Everything gets blamed on Russia now. The press and politicians tells us Russia is both incompetent and omnipotent

>The article cites Russian involvement again Everything gets blamed on Russia now. The press and politicians tells us Russia is both incompetent and omnipotent. "Normal" people on Twitter will accuse you of being a "Russian bot" if you have a slightly different opinion. We blamed the Russians for blowing up their own pipeline for no reason in particular. It's crazy. Is this a meta-attack from Russia to flood the information space so that blaming Russia becomes something people ignore? Hmmm....

mistermann 2y ago
Do you mock people in wheelchairs for not being able to walk also? Holy jeez man.
fastball 2y ago
Paying the captain of a cargo vessel to damage an undersea cable by dragging his anchor for 160km isn't exactly a conspiracy theory that requires Russian "omnipotence". Most people I know think the Ukrainians blew up Nordstream.
tiziocaio 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  HN isn't actively censoring anything in that way, and we've always been clear that nationalistic attacks are not allowed against any nation or national group here. What is true that the HN community (though highly international) is mostly Western, so there's a bias in favor of Western points of view and some difficulty in opening to non-Western points of view. We try to help with this where we can, but there's not a lot we can do. Among the many problems with this is that minority participants—that is, the ones with contrarian or minority views—tend to feel embattled and to defensively break the site guidelines themselves. (You've done that in your own post here, for example.) That puts the moderators in a quandary: we want minority viewpoints to be heard fairly, but we can't condone the guidelines breakage. I wrote about this recently if anyone cares: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41948722 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41948722, and there's plenty more at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20contrarian%20view&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....
  - guappa 2y ago
    > HN isn't actively censoring anything in that way Well dunno… you're responding to a deleted comment that I can't read. Maybe he had a point about censoring :D
    - dang 2y ago
      Not deleted—we only ever delete comments when the author asks us to, and they show as [deleted], not [dead]. [dead] comments are readable by anyone who wants to turn 'showdead' on in their profile. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. In the case of the GP comment, it was [dead] because users flagged it. (I've unkilled it now though.)
      - guappa 2y ago
        Ah thanks, I can read it now.

mistermann 2y ago

Do you mock people in wheelchairs for not being able to walk also? Holy jeez man.

fastball 2y ago

Paying the captain of a cargo vessel to damage an undersea cable by dragging his anchor for 160km isn't exactly a conspiracy theory that requires Russian "omnipotence". Most people I know think the Ukrainians blew up Nordstream.

tiziocaio 2y ago

[flagged]

dang 2y ago
HN isn't actively censoring anything in that way, and we've always been clear that nationalistic attacks are not allowed against any nation or national group here. What is true that the HN community (though highly international) is mostly Western, so there's a bias in favor of Western points of view and some difficulty in opening to non-Western points of view. We try to help with this where we can, but there's not a lot we can do. Among the many problems with this is that minority participants—that is, the ones with contrarian or minority views—tend to feel embattled and to defensively break the site guidelines themselves. (You've done that in your own post here, for example.) That puts the moderators in a quandary: we want minority viewpoints to be heard fairly, but we can't condone the guidelines breakage. I wrote about this recently if anyone cares: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41948722 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41948722, and there's plenty more at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20contrarian%20view&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....
- guappa 2y ago
  > HN isn't actively censoring anything in that way Well dunno… you're responding to a deleted comment that I can't read. Maybe he had a point about censoring :D
  - dang 2y ago
    Not deleted—we only ever delete comments when the author asks us to, and they show as [deleted], not [dead]. [dead] comments are readable by anyone who wants to turn 'showdead' on in their profile. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. In the case of the GP comment, it was [dead] because users flagged it. (I've unkilled it now though.)
    - guappa 2y ago
      Ah thanks, I can read it now.