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Finland, Sweden complete repairs on Baltic Sea cables
- jb1991 2y agoApparently the South China Sea now extends all the way to the Baltic Sea.
- deskr 2y agoThat was quick. Vittu Venäjä.
- madspindel 2y agoHaha! Finish brothers! <3 Dasvidaniya Putin! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ozCWyUlCg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ozCWyUlCg
- dmortin 2y agoWill they make the Chinese ship company pay for the reparations and big fine on top of that for cutting cable? Because if not then it will happen again and again.
- morkalork 2y agoFines? Act like a privateer, get treated like a privateer. The people bankrolling this behaviour don't care about fines.
- ktsaver 2y agoThe article cites Russian involvement again, followed by mentioning the Yi Peng 3 anchor-dragging accusations. It seems unlikely that the Chinese would get involved at the behest of the Russians. Russia depends on China now and not vice versa. We see right now what an actual Russian retaliation for ATACMS strikes looks like: Oreshnik, taking out energy infrastructure in Ukraine, etc. Certainly the visual effects of Oreshnik were greater than a cable cut that just reduces gamer latency in Finland for a couple of days.
- tokai 2y agoOreshnik does not register for the people living around the Baltic sea. We have seen big explosions in Ukraine for years now, its not going to move any discourse in northen europe by now. Not saying that the cable cut will, but it has a better chance.
- rob74 2y agoWell, the "big explosions" have led Sweden and Finland to apply for Nato membership (and actually get it after various delays caused by Putin's allies) after staying neutral for almost 75 years. And everyone knows that Russia has missiles, so Oreshnik only demonstrated that they actually work (which I think no one seriously doubted either). The question is just whether Russia is willing to use these missiles (and maybe worse) against other targets too...
- guappa 2y agoWhat big explosions are you referring to?
- SiempreViernes 2y agoWrong person, its tokai that introduced the term.
- benterix 2y ago> Oreshnik only demonstrated that they actually work (which I think no one seriously doubted either) Actually, many people started to seriously doubt anything that Russia says, especially concerning their military power in the light of their spectacular failures especially at the beginning of the war. Regarding their nuclear arsenal from Soviet times, we are right to doubt in what shape it is and whether it could pose more damage to other countries or Russia itself. As for Oreshnik, we have no idea how many copies they actually have, but at least the USA have practiced successfully intercepting hypersonic missiles already several years ago. I doubt they would export the tech to Ukraine, though.
- bastloing 2y agoLet the tracking, tracing, and data grabs begin again! Best thing ever, drop off the internet for a week. Great for mental health!
- diggan 2y agoLuckily (unluckily?), the internet is smart enough to route around single links disappearing :)
- personalityson 2y agoWhen you lose your internet connection, its the perfect time to lay back and dive into your thoughts, to contemplate over your oh wait its back on
- heraldgeezer 2y agohttps://www.submarinecablemap.com/ https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ Plenty of cables. BUT this is a test by the Russians of our response. You people always try to either downplay or exaggerate. "oh nothing happened so it is fine" or "waowh internet totally went down!!!" This is also propaganda to try an minimize the Russians actions.
- willvarfar 2y agoSweden has just asked China to cooperate in the investigation. Its not clear what form exactly this will take, or what has been asked, but I could guess that they've asked that the ship sail into Swedish territorial waters. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c748210k82wo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c748210k82wo
- InDubioProRubio 2y agoThe only thing certain is that faced will be saved.
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- jagrsw 2y agoTurning the Baltic into a "NATO lake" by controlling the Finland-Estonia strait would be an interesting idea, especially now with Finland and Sweden in the alliance. Effectively limiting Russian naval access from St. Petersburg (except for civilian traffic, subject to inspection) would certainly boost regional security. Article on this recently: https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2024/7/10/baltic-sea-now-called-a-nato-lake https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2024/7/10/b... An effective retaliation option, I guess kept in reserve, "just in case" retaliation is needed.
- newsclues 2y agoThe Russians hate this and will do sneaky stuff to counter this.
- kjrfghslkdjfl 2y ago[dead]
- benterix 2y ago> The Russians I know it's a mental shortcut and if we wanted to be precise it would quickly become unwieldy so just a quick note, also to self, that the Russians I know don't have and don't want to have anything to do with this, are fed up with what is going on and just want to live in peace.
- jagrsw 2y agoAs a Pole by birth, I'm undoubtedly biased. However, it's not as simple as "Putin wants war, despite opposition from most Russians." Living near the USSR border and within the Soviet sphere of influence taught me that a vast majority of Russians prioritize a strong, assertive nation, often placing societal and economic development lower on their list of needs. If that means occasional invasions and killings, it's part of the game. Putin may achieve 80%+ support through rigged elections, but even without rigging, it's likely 60%+. So, it's not a simple dichotomy of the Russian people versus Putin - it's more complex. That said, I also have Russian friends (many now former Russians) who passionately hate the current government and condemn its actions.
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- jacknews 2y agoSo is there some evidence of sabotage? Now that they've repaired the damage they should know, right? Or was this whole thing all just manufactured accusations and scaremongering by the western governments and press?
- alkonaut 2y agoThat conclusion probably takes some time. Even if they found some evidence now, we're unlikely to hear about it until the investigations are wrapped up. And there are multiple criminal investigations in at least 3 countries, so it won't be this year.
- jacknews 2y agoI'm fairly confident that if there was any evidence what so ever of sabotage, we'd be hearing it now, loud and clear. Perhaps not the 'who' but certainly the 'done it'.
- heraldgeezer 2y agoThe ship went over 2 cables and dragged its anchor 100 miles. They knew what they were doing. Don't try and play coy ruskie.
- jacknews 2y agoOK Mr McCarthy, where is this documented? And that it was deliberate? Are you talking about the Chinese ship? Why would they do that? fyi I'm a westerner, just maybe not so enveloped in the bubble so many of you seem to be.
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