> > by taking away their devices > That is literally your job as the parent. Tell me you're not a parent without telling me you're not a parent! This only wo

> > by taking away their devices > That is literally your job as the parent. Tell me you're not a parent without telling me you're not a parent! This only works if there is broad support from the entire social group, meaning school and all (or most) of the other parents. If you try this all alone, all you can accomplish is to apply more suffering to your poor child. For us, here in silicon valley, fortunately that broad support existed in elementary school. Not a single kid had a phone, so it was the norm. In middle school the support is still broad, although less absolute. A few kids have phones, but they are outliers, so it's still normal not to have one.