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Trump is using big stick tactics by threatening huge tariffs in order to force negotiation. That's what he does and there is no need to panic at this point. He

Trump is using big stick tactics by threatening huge tariffs in order to force negotiation. That's what he does and there is no need to panic at this point. He's not even President yet and Europe is already offering concessions to avoid tariffs, for instance. It works because people think he is fully willing to deliver on his threats.

righthand 2y ago
He is fully willing to deliver on his threats. He did it his first term. The tariffs are coming. You don’t rile up hundreds of millions of people with hateful lies to back out of promising tarrifs will fix everything. If you think Trump is all talk in order to negotiate then you are sorely mistaken and you are one of the suckers he’s selling to.
- mytailorisrich 2y ago
  Did the US and the world collapse in his first term? (Well, ignore Covid) I am not saying that he is all talk. I am saying that he is a master of hyperbolic threats followed by a more nuanced reality. I can't understand the level of aggressivity and panic (from some) over Trump's reelection. "Keep calm and carry on" as we say in the UK...
  - righthand 2y ago
    Why are you talking about world collapse? You stated that Trump’s tarrifs are just a threat and negotiating tactic and there’s nothing to worry about. I replied that Trumps tarrifs aren’t a threat and the he’s used tarrifs before. Your response is that it’s okay because the world didn’t collapse in 4 years? You’re moving the goal posts. The tarrifs are going to be bad. Will it collapse the world? It may for some that aren’t expecting to pay higher prices for goods, especially people that just voted for Mr Tarrifs because they blamed the previous leader for high inflation. Inflation is something no POTUS can do anything about, but tarrifs are. So in the spirit of continued high prices, yes the world is collapsing. I don’t know if you’ve noticed the panic Trump has caused with xenophobia the past 20+ years but none of those voters believe in the phrase “Keep calm and carry on”. Just because you were not directly affected by Trump’s first term does not mean you can wave away other people’s concerns as not problems.
    - righthand 2y ago
      Addendum: Also who is Trump going to negotiate with? Republicans have the government locked and are willing to push these poorly thought out ideas and beliefs.
  - DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
    > I can't understand the level of aggressivity and panic (from some) over Trump's reelection. The guy tried to overturn the results of the 2020 election by any means possible. Trump called up the Georgia Secretary of State and demanded that he just add 11,000 votes to Trump's total. It's on tape. Trump's team set up slates of fake electors from states that Trump lost. The Trump team drew up a detailed legal argument for how Mike Pence could reject the real electors and let the fake electors vote, throwing the election to Trump. When Pence refused to go along with that blatantly illegal scheme, Trump riled up a crowd and sicced them on the Capitol, in order to physically disrupt and prevent the certification of the presidential election. Trump has shown that he fundamentally rejects the American political system, and is willing to trash the entire system of elected government if he loses. Many people rightly view that as a threat to the continuation of democracy in the US.
ZeroGravitas 2y ago
Maybe, but there's about a similar chance that Trump actually invades Mexico. Just as American neocon think tanks had plans to invade Iraq and used 9/11 as justification to squander Trillions of dollars and millions of lives for no good reason. Project 2025 talks about how Mexico doesn't actually have sovereignty because it's run by cartels supplying fentanyl. Is it coincidence that Trump announced the same reasons to impose 25% tariffs? Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but again, Republicans did Iraq just a couple of decades ago. The Republican voters loved it. The corporate media loved it. Trump supported it. And now they all pretend they didn't. Mass demonstrations and allies saying not to do that couldn't help, and it got Bush reelected.
ChocolateGod 2y ago
> Europe is already offering concessions to avoid tariffs, for instance. Maybe if Robert F. Kennedy goes with his threat to ban cancerous chemicals from food in the US, then Europe won't need to block the imports of American food.

righthand 2y ago

He is fully willing to deliver on his threats. He did it his first term. The tariffs are coming. You don’t rile up hundreds of millions of people with hateful lies to back out of promising tarrifs will fix everything. If you think Trump is all talk in order to negotiate then you are sorely mistaken and you are one of the suckers he’s selling to.

mytailorisrich 2y ago
Did the US and the world collapse in his first term? (Well, ignore Covid) I am not saying that he is all talk. I am saying that he is a master of hyperbolic threats followed by a more nuanced reality. I can't understand the level of aggressivity and panic (from some) over Trump's reelection. "Keep calm and carry on" as we say in the UK...
- righthand 2y ago
  Why are you talking about world collapse? You stated that Trump’s tarrifs are just a threat and negotiating tactic and there’s nothing to worry about. I replied that Trumps tarrifs aren’t a threat and the he’s used tarrifs before. Your response is that it’s okay because the world didn’t collapse in 4 years? You’re moving the goal posts. The tarrifs are going to be bad. Will it collapse the world? It may for some that aren’t expecting to pay higher prices for goods, especially people that just voted for Mr Tarrifs because they blamed the previous leader for high inflation. Inflation is something no POTUS can do anything about, but tarrifs are. So in the spirit of continued high prices, yes the world is collapsing. I don’t know if you’ve noticed the panic Trump has caused with xenophobia the past 20+ years but none of those voters believe in the phrase “Keep calm and carry on”. Just because you were not directly affected by Trump’s first term does not mean you can wave away other people’s concerns as not problems.
  - righthand 2y ago
    Addendum: Also who is Trump going to negotiate with? Republicans have the government locked and are willing to push these poorly thought out ideas and beliefs.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
  > I can't understand the level of aggressivity and panic (from some) over Trump's reelection. The guy tried to overturn the results of the 2020 election by any means possible. Trump called up the Georgia Secretary of State and demanded that he just add 11,000 votes to Trump's total. It's on tape. Trump's team set up slates of fake electors from states that Trump lost. The Trump team drew up a detailed legal argument for how Mike Pence could reject the real electors and let the fake electors vote, throwing the election to Trump. When Pence refused to go along with that blatantly illegal scheme, Trump riled up a crowd and sicced them on the Capitol, in order to physically disrupt and prevent the certification of the presidential election. Trump has shown that he fundamentally rejects the American political system, and is willing to trash the entire system of elected government if he loses. Many people rightly view that as a threat to the continuation of democracy in the US.

ZeroGravitas 2y ago

Maybe, but there's about a similar chance that Trump actually invades Mexico. Just as American neocon think tanks had plans to invade Iraq and used 9/11 as justification to squander Trillions of dollars and millions of lives for no good reason. Project 2025 talks about how Mexico doesn't actually have sovereignty because it's run by cartels supplying fentanyl. Is it coincidence that Trump announced the same reasons to impose 25% tariffs? Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but again, Republicans did Iraq just a couple of decades ago. The Republican voters loved it. The corporate media loved it. Trump supported it. And now they all pretend they didn't. Mass demonstrations and allies saying not to do that couldn't help, and it got Bush reelected.

ChocolateGod 2y ago

> Europe is already offering concessions to avoid tariffs, for instance. Maybe if Robert F. Kennedy goes with his threat to ban cancerous chemicals from food in the US, then Europe won't need to block the imports of American food.