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It’s funny, I’ve been in crypto for a few years now and not once have I seen these grifters you talk about. Also, you should maybe stop associating right wing

It’s funny, I’ve been in crypto for a few years now and not once have I seen these grifters you talk about. Also, you should maybe stop associating right wing crypto YouTubers with crypto developers. I would say most I know are left of central.

chikere232 2y ago
if you can't see the grifters, you're the mark
- alfiedotwtf 2y ago
  You’re a Java developer and you’re calling me the mark?
  - chikere232 2y ago
    You have seen no grifters in crypto and you're calling me a java developer?
rcxdude 2y ago
Never? The highest profile things in crypto are the scams, so you gotta be pretty laser-focused on your niche to not see them.
- alfiedotwtf 2y ago
  The highest profile things in crypto are Bitcoin ETFs which are institutionally run, so I guess you’re not wrong there
  - fragmede 2y ago
    FTX seems pretty high profile to me.
    - alfiedotwtf 2y ago
      I’m just a dev, and don’t hang around parties in the Bahamas. Like I said, I’ve never met a single person who’s a grifter. Calling out FTX is like doing background checks on the company you work for’s VCs, their LPs and then their associates. Nothing to do with crypto on the ground
fragmede 2y ago
Let's assume a normal distribution of humanity exists in crypto, ie, broadly, over all of humanity, there are good people and bad people, so we would expect there to be good and bad people in crypto, as, while there are some self-selecting aspects to cryptocurrency enthusiasts or developers, there isn't a way to select for "only good people". This is true for every group of people. This is true of the police, true of the clergy, true of school teachers, true of software developers, politicians, etc. So if you've never once seen them, either you're wilfully blinding yourself, or you haven't looked very hard. Now, whether or not grifters are overrepresented in the cryptocurrency community, the cryptocurrency developer community, or the right wing crypto YouTubers community, is an entirely separate question, which I made no claims about. Though I imagine North Korean crypto devs fall into a certain category. But to claim they don't exist, because you've never seen one is questionable. I mean, that works for some things (eg unicorns and dragons), but I've also never seen eg the Vegas Sphere in person, but I'm fairly convinced it's a real thing that exists.
- alfiedotwtf 2y ago
  Nah, I don't claim they don't exist but I also claim that I've never met any - 99% of people I know in crypto are devs who chose to be there because of the ideals and challenges. From what I've seen in media, it's not the devs who are the scammers but the people up top - founders and sales people, which again I don't know many of that kind.

chikere232 2y ago

if you can't see the grifters, you're the mark

alfiedotwtf 2y ago
You’re a Java developer and you’re calling me the mark?
- chikere232 2y ago
  You have seen no grifters in crypto and you're calling me a java developer?

rcxdude 2y ago

Never? The highest profile things in crypto are the scams, so you gotta be pretty laser-focused on your niche to not see them.

alfiedotwtf 2y ago
The highest profile things in crypto are Bitcoin ETFs which are institutionally run, so I guess you’re not wrong there
- fragmede 2y ago
  FTX seems pretty high profile to me.
  - alfiedotwtf 2y ago
    I’m just a dev, and don’t hang around parties in the Bahamas. Like I said, I’ve never met a single person who’s a grifter. Calling out FTX is like doing background checks on the company you work for’s VCs, their LPs and then their associates. Nothing to do with crypto on the ground

fragmede 2y ago

Let's assume a normal distribution of humanity exists in crypto, ie, broadly, over all of humanity, there are good people and bad people, so we would expect there to be good and bad people in crypto, as, while there are some self-selecting aspects to cryptocurrency enthusiasts or developers, there isn't a way to select for "only good people". This is true for every group of people. This is true of the police, true of the clergy, true of school teachers, true of software developers, politicians, etc. So if you've never once seen them, either you're wilfully blinding yourself, or you haven't looked very hard. Now, whether or not grifters are overrepresented in the cryptocurrency community, the cryptocurrency developer community, or the right wing crypto YouTubers community, is an entirely separate question, which I made no claims about. Though I imagine North Korean crypto devs fall into a certain category. But to claim they don't exist, because you've never seen one is questionable. I mean, that works for some things (eg unicorns and dragons), but I've also never seen eg the Vegas Sphere in person, but I'm fairly convinced it's a real thing that exists.

alfiedotwtf 2y ago
Nah, I don't claim they don't exist but I also claim that I've never met any - 99% of people I know in crypto are devs who chose to be there because of the ideals and challenges. From what I've seen in media, it's not the devs who are the scammers but the people up top - founders and sales people, which again I don't know many of that kind.