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As much as I like Musk, Twitter has become horrible. I created a new account for work and without following anybody, my feed was filled with some of the most ho
by ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
As much as I like Musk, Twitter has become horrible. I created a new account for work and without following anybody, my feed was filled with some of the most horrible racist shit against black people I have ever seen.
Now I don't mind that stuff in forums and 4chan (some folks find that content funny) but if I have to do work, it cannot coexist with that content.
- cryptozeus 2y agoWow I have been on twtr dor years, never seen this.
- whimsicalism 2y agoreally? i see stuff like this all the time
- ironhaven 2y agoIt’s no longer twitter it is “x.com”. Much different moderation and user base
- flir 2y agoI logged back in today for the first time in years, and the only real difference for me was in-line ads everywhere (I see you, VW, and I won't forget), and it was quieter. I suspect there's a difference between an already-curated account and a new account.
- waveBidder 2y agoIf you stick to just following, twitter 2 months ago was fine, as long as you also didn't read the comments or click on your notifications (which was inevitable follows by cryptoshills). At this point the people I was following have all left, because they had to put up with way more shit than I did.
- flir 2y agoThat tracks. I was just skimming whatever has replaced the timeline.
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- devmor 2y agoNot a Musk fan myself but I echo your sentiment about Twitter. I have mostly used it to lurk and follow tech personalities that post things I enjoy reading. Now I can’t open it at work because the main page is likely to contain horribly racist or otherwise bigoted memes and diatribes from people I’ve never followed or interacted with.
- valval 2y agoSince there are so many horribly racist memes on there, you should be able to link one example?
- hooverd 2y agohttps://x.com/BorealBaron/status/1861563428462039440 https://x.com/BorealBaron/status/1861563428462039440 https://x.com/RedPillSayian/status/1861982472847716721 https://x.com/RedPillSayian/status/1861982472847716721 Deleted, but from a Warp affiliate, oof. https://x.com/CollieYimby/status/1832186179741253835 https://x.com/CollieYimby/status/1832186179741253835
- valval 2y agoI don't really understand the first picture since it has nothing to do with race or racism, and I'll bet you 100 million dollars the latter two won't appear on anyone's front page unless you're searching for exactly that.
- devmor 2y agoYour entire comment history on HN is trying to start political debates, what are you even doing here? This website is not for you.
- valval 2y agoDiscussing politics in political threads, with people who disagree with my own beliefs. I love going in echo chambers of people whose ideologies I don't agree with, and try to reason with them and understand them. I'm a software engineer who's already seen the field of software. Talking about it isn't that interesting to me. I make more money than I need selling a rather simple subscription service, written in an obscure language that never gets mentioned here. And finally, the obligatory "no u", since telling someone that this website is not for them is the epitome of this website not being for you.
- DonHopkins 2y agoWhy don't you mind racist shit against black people in forums and 4Chan? Do you think black people shouldn't mind it either? Where else do you think racism is acceptable?
- mhh__ 2y agoThe alternative is not having freedom of speech (which is a principle not a law)
- dicjsnw 2y agoThe alternative is freedom of choice. Right-wingers will always whine that there’s no freedom of speech when liberals aren’t forced to listen to their drivel. Welcome to the marketplace of ideas!
- mhh__ 2y agoForced? You weren't allowed to I really have no skin in this game but surely, surely the big social sites got caught red handed being overly censorious in during COVID and so on
- likeabatterycar 2y agoTaken at face value, I find this forum is far more unpleasant, and far less inclusive, than a bunch of high school nerds trying to shock each other with naughty words. They're not trying to outsmart each other for fake internet points.
- DonHopkins 2y agoThen maybe you should leave HN and go back to 4chan.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago[dead]
- ashleyn 2y agoIt's worth noting that Bluesky has exponentially grown to 23MM users on the back of changes that increasingly force X users to engage with what begins as a minority of trolls. These types of users are not some noble vanguard of the free speech of the wise masses, or whatever else proponents try to portray them as - quite the opposite. Who do you actually know IRL who's a bitcoin-obsessed tradcath neo-nazi? The "freedom of speech" being afforded here isn't going to the benefit of scientists or economists with technical misgivings of a small part of some overreaching left-anarchist agenda. If it were, the "free speech" crusade would be much easier to understand. But for every Jordan Peterson, there's twelve Nick Fuenteses, being treated as if their opinions have the same value. These types of users are a very vocal minority exceedingly committed to flowing a firehose of low-quality, sneery, fact-free, outrage-bait content. And fewer and fewer people are interested in any of it. "Free speech" is the government-level abstraction. Private platforms are better to moderate their service, because this specific contingent ruins every platform they're permitted to dominate. It's the Nazi bar problem in a nutshell. X's usership is dropping like a rock[1] as Bluesky's growth surges[2]. Nobody wants to be forced to engage with these types of users, and the trends demonstrate this. If I were one of X's investment partners, I would be fuming at Elon's abject squandering of my perfectly good investment capital. If this is the platform Elon actually wants, then fine and dandy. Just don't complain when the result is different than what you expected and huge amounts of people leave instead of assimilating to the hivemind. [1]: https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-losing-users-in-the-us-and-uk/727842/ https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-los... [2]: https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/11/26/bluesky-plans-to-quadruple-its-moderation-team-to-100-as-exodus-from-x-sees-number-of-user https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/11/26/bluesky-plans-to-qu...
- fidotron 2y ago> These types of users are a very vocal minority exceedingly committed to flowing a firehose of low-quality, sneery, fact-free, outrage-bait content. You may be right about X but this is the most on point description of BlueSky ever written.
- qingcharles 2y agoHere's what the toddler Musk said about Bluesky yesterday: https://imgur.com/a/AOd6lIp https://imgur.com/a/AOd6lIp At least we know it's getting to him.
- melon_tusk 2y agoWeird, I created an account for a family member last evening, and I didn't see anything racist at all. Without following anyone I only saw ads and some tweets by Elon Musk.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoI used to like Musk pre-Twitter, but he's turned into such an immature person -- or maybe he always was and now can just flaunt it without consequences. Being immature is fine if you're alone in your basement hacking away, not when you have the power to single-handedly control the (formerly) most useful digital public square in the world, and use it to your own political ends.
- p_j_w 2y agoDo you mean pre-Twitter buyout or pre-Twitter presence? If you mean pre-buyout then I have bad news for you: Musk has been baselessly calling people pedophiles since at least 2018. If you mean pre-presence then I have bad news for you: If you only liked someone before they were really expressing themselves, you probably never actually liked them.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago"Never meet your heroes" is from Madame Bovary which was written in 1857. With Twitter we can meet all our heroes.
- insane_dreamer 2y agoI meant pre-buyout. I guess I hadn't heard much about his personal antics before then; mostly just knew of his achievements with Tesla, SpaceX, and admired him pushing the auto industry towards EVs (kicking and screaming, but they had no choice because Tesla posed an actual threat where no EV company had ever done before).
- waveBidder 2y agoHe should've been banned from Twitter for his own mental health years ago. Dude should've just stuck to building rockets and stopped trying to get into the culture war.
- valval 2y agoWould you be able to link just one example of high engagement, horrible racist shit against black people?
- paulgb 2y agoTwitter has search if you really want to see examples. Took me a few seconds to find this one with 16k likes from a couple of days ago. https://x.com/GarethDavies007/status/1861477780778529043 https://x.com/GarethDavies007/status/1861477780778529043
- valval 2y agoYou shouldn’t have to use the search, since we’re now addressing the claim that racism is everywhere and in your face on that platform. Anti-immigration sentiments also don’t have to be racist, like they aren’t in the case of that post.
- paulgb 2y agoClive Myrie is not an immigrant, he was born in northern England. The post is blatantly about race (“how often do white hosts”, “stop the racism”). You asked for something high-engagement, but the stuff that tends to be “in your face” is low engagement/high volume, as in this case I shared with you elsewhere in the thread. https://x.com/kaseyklimes/status/1862323859321483316 https://x.com/kaseyklimes/status/1862323859321483316
- valval 2y agoYou've linked a profile of someone whose entire following is centered around an anti-immigration sentiment. There are entire political parties centered around that. I understand that you're advocating for censorship, and you hate X because it's not going to cater to that wish. My point is that X isn't some propaganda tool of hateful content. It's a platform that has a little something for everyone, just as it should be.