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Does it? There is a billion people on this planet without adequate medical system - whose health is not considered worth investing into. If they get auto-diagno

Does it? There is a billion people on this planet without adequate medical system - whose health is not considered worth investing into. If they get auto-diagnosed by app (zero-cost), they could volunteer for a free chemical trial (delivery of package), a application of said package (local nurse - not free) and a series of follow up scans + analysis. The office behemoths involved are optional. Whats missing is tools to scan the body locally for cheap. The rest can be automated or distributed to people with an interest in success (high-level-analysis by the cure developers). Here are the volunteers: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667005424000061 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266700542...

llamaimperative 2y ago
Lovely: so just give tons of people an experimental drug and collect garbage data by doing so!
- bilbo0s 2y ago
  I'm not sure people fully understand the scientific method. All data is not reliable data.
wesselbindt 2y ago
> whose health is not considered worth investing into. If they get auto-diagnosed by app (zero-cost), they could volunteer for a free chemical trial What a profoundly ineffective and broken system we have that this could be uttered as anything other than satire.
- InDubioProRubio 2y ago
  So the perfect nothing is allowed to block the imperfect something, because we wait for humans to transcend to angelic beeings?
  - wesselbindt 2y ago
    Yeah, not doing human testing on poor folks without a choice is really "angelic" and "perfect". Very high bar to set, how could we possibly achieve such high standards of morality?
    - InDubioProRubio 2y ago
      They have a choice. To use the medicine or not. The choice is gone in the other case- where you can die of cancer for "ethical" comission reasons.
      - jodleif 2y ago
        That’s essentially a non-choice. Also data of self-administration is probably worthless.
      - nkrisc 2y ago
        Step 1: Create economic conditions in which vast numbers of people can’t afford medical care Step 2: Offer them the “choice” of possibly receiving care by being medical guinea pigs for those who created the situation that deprived them of medical care in the first place. A coerced choice is a not a free choice.
        InDubioProRubio 2y ago
        A non-help, because waiting for the idealized version of help - is still less worth than a "could-help" but under coercing economic conditions. A feel-good ideological purity is less preferable outcome then a tainted Samaritan.
        nkrisc 2y ago
        If it wasn't clear, my belief is that it would end up doing more harm than good, and that the status quo is the least-harm scenario between the two.
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- InDubioProRubio 2y ago
  PS: Yes, its a deeply broken system- and its also on the point where the well-off blue blooded caste starts to blame the lower-classes for the misery inflicted upon them again- aka, if you are of low blood, you are obviously lazy because you spend so much time in bed being sick. Ideology can be a very effective tool to deactivate compassion.

llamaimperative 2y ago

Lovely: so just give tons of people an experimental drug and collect garbage data by doing so!

bilbo0s 2y ago
I'm not sure people fully understand the scientific method. All data is not reliable data.

wesselbindt 2y ago

> whose health is not considered worth investing into. If they get auto-diagnosed by app (zero-cost), they could volunteer for a free chemical trial What a profoundly ineffective and broken system we have that this could be uttered as anything other than satire.

InDubioProRubio 2y ago
So the perfect nothing is allowed to block the imperfect something, because we wait for humans to transcend to angelic beeings?
- wesselbindt 2y ago
  Yeah, not doing human testing on poor folks without a choice is really "angelic" and "perfect". Very high bar to set, how could we possibly achieve such high standards of morality?
  - InDubioProRubio 2y ago
    They have a choice. To use the medicine or not. The choice is gone in the other case- where you can die of cancer for "ethical" comission reasons.
    - jodleif 2y ago
      That’s essentially a non-choice. Also data of self-administration is probably worthless.
    - nkrisc 2y ago
      Step 1: Create economic conditions in which vast numbers of people can’t afford medical care Step 2: Offer them the “choice” of possibly receiving care by being medical guinea pigs for those who created the situation that deprived them of medical care in the first place. A coerced choice is a not a free choice.
      - InDubioProRubio 2y ago
        A non-help, because waiting for the idealized version of help - is still less worth than a "could-help" but under coercing economic conditions. A feel-good ideological purity is less preferable outcome then a tainted Samaritan.
        nkrisc 2y ago
        If it wasn't clear, my belief is that it would end up doing more harm than good, and that the status quo is the least-harm scenario between the two.
- 2y ago
InDubioProRubio 2y ago
PS: Yes, its a deeply broken system- and its also on the point where the well-off blue blooded caste starts to blame the lower-classes for the misery inflicted upon them again- aka, if you are of low blood, you are obviously lazy because you spend so much time in bed being sick. Ideology can be a very effective tool to deactivate compassion.