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I used to be a fan of the idea of places with absolute free speech. The problem is that repeatedly, in practice, these places suck. It is not an idea that scale
by terribleperson 2y ago
I used to be a fan of the idea of places with absolute free speech.
The problem is that repeatedly, in practice, these places suck. It is not an idea that scales. Once a place is larger a single friend-group that can ostracize any assholes, the assholes show up and start being assholes. You either moderate them, or everyone else leaves except assholes and people who are highly tolerant of assholes. This isn't something that's happened once, it happens repeatedly.
That doesn't mean that the horrifying sterile nature of youtube is great. There are acceptable in-betweens, it just won't happen while the internet mostly consists of corporate giants that don't want to spend the money for real moderation.
- Jensson 2y ago> I used to be a fan of the idea of places with absolute free speech. The problem is that repeatedly, in practice, these places suck So public places sucks? I like being able to talk about whatever I want when I walk around with friends, if someone tells me I have to go home to talk about that it would suck. Since this works in public I don't see why it couldn't work online. All you need is anti harassment policies etc just like in reality, not anti speech.
- foogazi 2y ago> Since this works in public I don't see why it couldn't work online. Have you tried setting up your own blog or do you want to write whatever you want on my blog ?
- terribleperson 2y agoWe're talking about the internet, not physical spaces where different rules apply. For one thing, the ease of access to any given space is much lower off the internet.
- red-iron-pine 2y agothe meme about the Nazi bar: if you don't kick out the Nazis, the Nazis start hanging out in your bar. And in a couple months, you become the Nazi bar, and regular folks start to get weary. And you're either okay with that, or not.