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8 million turkeys will be thrown in the trash this Thanksgiving

22 points by lr0 2y ago

adzm 2y ago
Is everyone eating overdone turkey or what? It shouldn't be dry or flavorless.
- dataviz1000 2y ago
  > We don’t have to accept all that death and waste for a dry, flavorless bird no one likes. The author should learn how to cook. At one point in European history, eating turkey on Christmas was reserved for only royalty. The Windsors have eaten turkey every Christmas since 1850 for a reason. It is a delicious bird.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  >Is everyone eating overdone turkey or what? It shouldn't be dry or flavorless. "Dry and flavorless" is exactly how I'd describe traditional American Thanksgiving turkey, in all my years of experience. Yes, for some reason, Americans apparently don't know how to cook it properly, but it is a very, very common thing.
- itronitron 2y ago
  Most Americans don't know how to roast meat so that it doesn't wind up dry, and they are probably following the instructions that are on the packaging.
- jbm 2y ago
  Spatchcocking turkey was a huge discovery for me when I lived in Japan. I didn't have an oven, but I did have an electric rotisserie, and the spatchcocked turkey came out perfectly. (Sadly they don't make that rotisserie anymore, it was very popular among my friends).
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- fallinghawks 2y ago
  If people would get away from the Norman Rockwell presentation of a whole bird, and spatchcock the thing instead, it will take less time to cook and cook more evenly. Salting it and leaving it uncovered in the fridge for a day or two helps to retain moisture in the meat. People need to use a good meat thermometer, and understand that killing pathogens is a combination of temperature and time[1]. The recommended 165 degrees basically means if pathogens are exposed to that temperature, they're instantly dead. However, if held at a lower temperature for a certain amount of time, they will also be killed. [1]https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-sous-vide-chicken-breast https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-s...
buckle8017 2y ago
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- igetspam 2y ago
  Where’s the crazy part? Lots of people are vegan or vegetarian. Many cultures the world over don’t consume meat. Is it because she chose to change her diet? Because she chose it for ethical and environmental reasons? Or because you don’t agree? I for one think turkey tastes like crap. Never understood gluttony as a holiday. On the other hand, I think turkeys are funny as hell and love having them on my farm. The number of animals we toss in a bin is pretty crazy. You wouldn’t put that many dogs in the trash and think it was okay, would you? Is it just because you assume they don’t taste as good?
- aziaziazi 2y ago
  And you are a rando internet user, why one should expect she’s crazier than you? Not because her Lady condition or vegan choice for sure.
gregorymichael 2y ago
Our tradition: fried chicken. If turkey was good, we’d eat it more than once a year. Fried chicken is delicious and you still get to do the whole over-involved preparation of poultry.
- rascul 2y ago
  Turkey is good. I eat it throughout the year.
chiph 2y ago
If you need help with the turkey, Butterball runs a phone bank every November with people who can advise you on defrosting, cooking, and food safety. 1-800-butterball But if your turkey is still frozen (today is Thanksgiving), you're going to have to fall back to "thanksgiving pizza". Even defrosting it by running cold water over it in the sink won't get it ready to cook in time.

22 points by lr0 2y ago

adzm 2y ago

Is everyone eating overdone turkey or what? It shouldn't be dry or flavorless.

dataviz1000 2y ago
> We don’t have to accept all that death and waste for a dry, flavorless bird no one likes. The author should learn how to cook. At one point in European history, eating turkey on Christmas was reserved for only royalty. The Windsors have eaten turkey every Christmas since 1850 for a reason. It is a delicious bird.
shiroiushi 2y ago
>Is everyone eating overdone turkey or what? It shouldn't be dry or flavorless. "Dry and flavorless" is exactly how I'd describe traditional American Thanksgiving turkey, in all my years of experience. Yes, for some reason, Americans apparently don't know how to cook it properly, but it is a very, very common thing.
itronitron 2y ago
Most Americans don't know how to roast meat so that it doesn't wind up dry, and they are probably following the instructions that are on the packaging.
jbm 2y ago
Spatchcocking turkey was a huge discovery for me when I lived in Japan. I didn't have an oven, but I did have an electric rotisserie, and the spatchcocked turkey came out perfectly. (Sadly they don't make that rotisserie anymore, it was very popular among my friends).
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fallinghawks 2y ago
If people would get away from the Norman Rockwell presentation of a whole bird, and spatchcock the thing instead, it will take less time to cook and cook more evenly. Salting it and leaving it uncovered in the fridge for a day or two helps to retain moisture in the meat. People need to use a good meat thermometer, and understand that killing pathogens is a combination of temperature and time[1]. The recommended 165 degrees basically means if pathogens are exposed to that temperature, they're instantly dead. However, if held at a lower temperature for a certain amount of time, they will also be killed. [1]https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-sous-vide-chicken-breast https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-s...

buckle8017 2y ago

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igetspam 2y ago
Where’s the crazy part? Lots of people are vegan or vegetarian. Many cultures the world over don’t consume meat. Is it because she chose to change her diet? Because she chose it for ethical and environmental reasons? Or because you don’t agree? I for one think turkey tastes like crap. Never understood gluttony as a holiday. On the other hand, I think turkeys are funny as hell and love having them on my farm. The number of animals we toss in a bin is pretty crazy. You wouldn’t put that many dogs in the trash and think it was okay, would you? Is it just because you assume they don’t taste as good?
aziaziazi 2y ago
And you are a rando internet user, why one should expect she’s crazier than you? Not because her Lady condition or vegan choice for sure.

gregorymichael 2y ago

Our tradition: fried chicken. If turkey was good, we’d eat it more than once a year. Fried chicken is delicious and you still get to do the whole over-involved preparation of poultry.

rascul 2y ago
Turkey is good. I eat it throughout the year.

chiph 2y ago

If you need help with the turkey, Butterball runs a phone bank every November with people who can advise you on defrosting, cooking, and food safety. 1-800-butterball But if your turkey is still frozen (today is Thanksgiving), you're going to have to fall back to "thanksgiving pizza". Even defrosting it by running cold water over it in the sink won't get it ready to cook in time.