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Know what I got from Twitter? Assaulted, harassed, and insulted. The rage over there is so intense that every discussion about literally everything (even bread)

Know what I got from Twitter? Assaulted, harassed, and insulted. The rage over there is so intense that every discussion about literally everything (even bread) quickly devolves into either racism, sexism, or insults. You know what I get from Bluesky? Bread recipes, video game commentary, in-depth legal voyeurism. And my favorite, political discussions with a variety of nuanced takes about the merits of individual policies that doesn't devolve into name calling.

ThomPete 2y ago
funny i get that too on twitter what you get on bluesky. if you seek out debate you will get it, has nothing to do with twitter. Bluesky will be very boring once upu realize that the reason you hate twitter is the reason you are going to hate bluesky. Its going to be very boring very soon or very toxic. Its still going to be relying on algorithms and. business logic
- TehCorwiz 2y ago
  When I left Twitter I didn't replace it with anything. Just normal offline friends. I joined Bluesky when someone told me that the interesting things I was looking for were there.
- verdverm 2y ago
  If you think Bluesky is a simple Twitter clone, you would be mistaken. There are fundamental differences that give choice back to the user and enable real competition in the social media landscape
EarlKing 2y ago
My experience has been the exact opposite. On Twitter I get all the nuanced discussion while Bluesky is filled with ranting since one political group decided to decamp to it. Ultimately, even when those people were still on Twitter I didn't really have an issue because I simply didn't engage with them. You get out of social networking services what you put into them. You're responsible for curating your own experience because the hucksters in charge aren't going to do it for you.
- TehCorwiz 2y ago
  Sounds like you're following the wrong people on Bluesky.
  - EarlKing 2y ago
    Which leads me to my second point: There is a cost for curation. If a given forum is filled with people I don't want to follow, and there's no easy way to sort them from the ones I do want to follow, one can easily say that the cost of curation is high, and insofar as I do not have an unlimited amount of time on my hands and that limited time is better disposed on other tasks, I'm unlikely to ever visit that forum. This is the problem that Mastodon/the Fediverse faces, and likewise Bluesky. On Twitter I can find people from just about any background I'd care to, and I already have a well-developed list of people I'm following. Bluesky and the Fediverse are filled with people who decamped from Twitter that I'd never follow in a million years, and even if there are others there I might be interested in, they're drowned out in the sea of what for me can accurately be categorized as spammers. Put simply: While the onus may be on me to set my own experience, there is a limit to how much effort I'm willing to put forward to accomplish that, and I think the same is true of others. Do not be surprised, therefore, when your particular choice of forum stalls out because a vocal demographic spams the crap out of it and turns others away in droves... because you set it up this way and it's working as designed.
    - TehCorwiz 2y ago
      My favorite feature of Bluesky so far are the Lists and Starter Packs which allow you to use other people's curation options as a jumping off point. Bluesky isn't 1:1 with Twitter for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that not everyone is there yet. But the ease of finding your niche is one of the better parts of it to me. EDIT: Oh, and the simplicity of their blocklists is absolutely worth looking into. There are a few accounts who have automated scammer/spam blocklists you can subscribe to.
      - EarlKing 2y ago
        I'm sure there are. I'm also confident that they're politically-driven spammers who are simply banning anyone they had an argument with once... so not only are their lists useless to me for finding people to filter, they're equally useless for finding people to follow. Now that might not be the case, but since that's how such people behaved on Twitter when they shared blocklists I'd invariably have to go through those lists to see who was on them and try to divine the underlying criteria used for adding people to the list to know if it's worth anything... and, again, that's time and effort I'm not interested in spending when I've got better things to do.
chomp 2y ago
Same, was very sad to see a lot of my friends in the open source community constantly have to restrict replies every time they posted, just because of their identity or the project they contribute to. On Bluesky, those people are mostly absent, and when they show up to harass, they get banned or nuclear blocked.
PaulKeeble 2y ago
This happens on both of them, the difference is that on Bluesky you can remove their ability to interact completely and the support staff will remove people who use insults. You can't avoid abuse on Twitter and the support system doesn't do anything even for outright nazi comments let alone an insult.

ThomPete 2y ago

funny i get that too on twitter what you get on bluesky. if you seek out debate you will get it, has nothing to do with twitter. Bluesky will be very boring once upu realize that the reason you hate twitter is the reason you are going to hate bluesky. Its going to be very boring very soon or very toxic. Its still going to be relying on algorithms and. business logic

TehCorwiz 2y ago
When I left Twitter I didn't replace it with anything. Just normal offline friends. I joined Bluesky when someone told me that the interesting things I was looking for were there.
verdverm 2y ago
If you think Bluesky is a simple Twitter clone, you would be mistaken. There are fundamental differences that give choice back to the user and enable real competition in the social media landscape

EarlKing 2y ago

My experience has been the exact opposite. On Twitter I get all the nuanced discussion while Bluesky is filled with ranting since one political group decided to decamp to it. Ultimately, even when those people were still on Twitter I didn't really have an issue because I simply didn't engage with them. You get out of social networking services what you put into them. You're responsible for curating your own experience because the hucksters in charge aren't going to do it for you.

TehCorwiz 2y ago
Sounds like you're following the wrong people on Bluesky.
- EarlKing 2y ago
  Which leads me to my second point: There is a cost for curation. If a given forum is filled with people I don't want to follow, and there's no easy way to sort them from the ones I do want to follow, one can easily say that the cost of curation is high, and insofar as I do not have an unlimited amount of time on my hands and that limited time is better disposed on other tasks, I'm unlikely to ever visit that forum. This is the problem that Mastodon/the Fediverse faces, and likewise Bluesky. On Twitter I can find people from just about any background I'd care to, and I already have a well-developed list of people I'm following. Bluesky and the Fediverse are filled with people who decamped from Twitter that I'd never follow in a million years, and even if there are others there I might be interested in, they're drowned out in the sea of what for me can accurately be categorized as spammers. Put simply: While the onus may be on me to set my own experience, there is a limit to how much effort I'm willing to put forward to accomplish that, and I think the same is true of others. Do not be surprised, therefore, when your particular choice of forum stalls out because a vocal demographic spams the crap out of it and turns others away in droves... because you set it up this way and it's working as designed.
  - TehCorwiz 2y ago
    My favorite feature of Bluesky so far are the Lists and Starter Packs which allow you to use other people's curation options as a jumping off point. Bluesky isn't 1:1 with Twitter for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that not everyone is there yet. But the ease of finding your niche is one of the better parts of it to me. EDIT: Oh, and the simplicity of their blocklists is absolutely worth looking into. There are a few accounts who have automated scammer/spam blocklists you can subscribe to.
    - EarlKing 2y ago
      I'm sure there are. I'm also confident that they're politically-driven spammers who are simply banning anyone they had an argument with once... so not only are their lists useless to me for finding people to filter, they're equally useless for finding people to follow. Now that might not be the case, but since that's how such people behaved on Twitter when they shared blocklists I'd invariably have to go through those lists to see who was on them and try to divine the underlying criteria used for adding people to the list to know if it's worth anything... and, again, that's time and effort I'm not interested in spending when I've got better things to do.

chomp 2y ago

Same, was very sad to see a lot of my friends in the open source community constantly have to restrict replies every time they posted, just because of their identity or the project they contribute to. On Bluesky, those people are mostly absent, and when they show up to harass, they get banned or nuclear blocked.

PaulKeeble 2y ago

This happens on both of them, the difference is that on Bluesky you can remove their ability to interact completely and the support staff will remove people who use insults. You can't avoid abuse on Twitter and the support system doesn't do anything even for outright nazi comments let alone an insult.