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The book makes a lot of things clearer than the film. Interestingly the book and the film were developed together by Kubrick and Clarke as a collaborative proc

by nickcw 2y ago

The book makes a lot of things clearer than the film. Interestingly the book and the film were developed together by Kubrick and Clarke as a collaborative process. Usually the book comes before the film, but occasionally it comes after. I can't think of other examples where the novel was developed alongside the film but I expect there are!

mulmen 2y ago
> I can't think of other examples where the novel was developed alongside the film but I expect there are! Game of Thrones?
- Loughla 2y ago
  That was a television series that should've waited. They needed the books to be finished. Because it's either: A) regular Hollywood schlock that ruined the last seasons; or (worse) B) that was his actual direction for the book series and now he knows that it's not good. Either way, I believe we will never get the final books in that series due to the television series.
  - mulmen 2y ago
    I definitely agree the show influenced the books. Not sure that’s better or worse. I didn’t hate the ending as much as everyone else. It made sense. Maybe it would be more palatable with a subsequent series.
  - watwut 2y ago
    Counterpoint - the books will never be finished, so waiting would make no sense. However, they should hire writers that can actually write characters and plots other then simplest ones. The writing quality was indeed horrible by the end.
eddythompson80 2y ago
Star Wars?
- themadturk 2y ago
  Written by another prominent science fiction writer whose name escapes me now (Alan Dean Foster, perhaps?), but released under Lucas's name. It's ironic, because Lucas hates writing so much.
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 2y ago
And interestingly Clarke set the destination as Saturn, whereas Kubrick made it Jupiter. In the sequel book, 2010, Clarke used Jupiter as in the movie.
atombender 2y ago
The Third Man is another example. Graham Greene wrote a treatment before he wrote the screenplay. The treatment, which wasn't written with publication in mind, was later published as a novella, and it differs from the film in several notable ways, because Greene and the directors changed things during the writing of the screenplay and the principal making of the film.
quuxplusone 2y ago
That process was documented in Clarke's 1972 book "The Lost Worlds of 2001". I recommend it to anyone who's interested, if you can find a copy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Worlds_of_2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Worlds_of_2001
themadturk 2y ago
Orson Scott Card wrote the novelization of James Cameron's The Abyss while on-set during filming, since it was filmed in an abandoned nuclear reactor cooling tower in his home state of South Carolina, and had some input on the script during shooting. (I heard this from Card at a science fiction convention, and it's borne out by IMDb trivia.)

by nickcw 2y ago

mulmen 2y ago

> I can't think of other examples where the novel was developed alongside the film but I expect there are! Game of Thrones?

Loughla 2y ago
That was a television series that should've waited. They needed the books to be finished. Because it's either: A) regular Hollywood schlock that ruined the last seasons; or (worse) B) that was his actual direction for the book series and now he knows that it's not good. Either way, I believe we will never get the final books in that series due to the television series.
- mulmen 2y ago
  I definitely agree the show influenced the books. Not sure that’s better or worse. I didn’t hate the ending as much as everyone else. It made sense. Maybe it would be more palatable with a subsequent series.
- watwut 2y ago
  Counterpoint - the books will never be finished, so waiting would make no sense. However, they should hire writers that can actually write characters and plots other then simplest ones. The writing quality was indeed horrible by the end.

eddythompson80 2y ago

Star Wars?

themadturk 2y ago
Written by another prominent science fiction writer whose name escapes me now (Alan Dean Foster, perhaps?), but released under Lucas's name. It's ironic, because Lucas hates writing so much.

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 2y ago

And interestingly Clarke set the destination as Saturn, whereas Kubrick made it Jupiter. In the sequel book, 2010, Clarke used Jupiter as in the movie.

atombender 2y ago

The Third Man is another example. Graham Greene wrote a treatment before he wrote the screenplay. The treatment, which wasn't written with publication in mind, was later published as a novella, and it differs from the film in several notable ways, because Greene and the directors changed things during the writing of the screenplay and the principal making of the film.

quuxplusone 2y ago

That process was documented in Clarke's 1972 book "The Lost Worlds of 2001". I recommend it to anyone who's interested, if you can find a copy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Worlds_of_2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Worlds_of_2001

themadturk 2y ago

Orson Scott Card wrote the novelization of James Cameron's The Abyss while on-set during filming, since it was filmed in an abandoned nuclear reactor cooling tower in his home state of South Carolina, and had some input on the script during shooting. (I heard this from Card at a science fiction convention, and it's borne out by IMDb trivia.)