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3 killed, 1 seriously injured in Tesla Cybertruck crash in Northern California

17 points by LopRabbit 2y ago

parl_match 2y ago
Early reports suggest that they were trapped in the vehicle. Horrifying and sad if true.
- defrost 2y ago
  This AP report states: Someone who also had been at the function, but was driving in a separate car, was able to pull the surviving victim out of the Cybertruck. indicates they were likely not trapped .. unless an external person was able to open doors that an internal person was unable to because { reasons? }.
  - parl_match 2y ago
    There's a bunch of other reports and posts, it's big news here in Oakland. It sounds like one of the doors got popped open but the other victims were partially incapacitated or unable to find the release. Judging by the speed of impact, and shape of the body/chassis, it's likely they were alive after impact and burned to death.
- qwerpy 2y ago
  If there’s anything uniquely attributable to Tesla/Cybertruck I’m sure it will be breathlessly reported on soon.
  - forgetfreeman 2y ago
    Seems like they buried the lede pretty hard here: "Other recalls covered rearview camera images that don’t activate immediately after shifting into reverse, trim pieces that can fall off, windshield wipers that can fail, and an incorrect font size on instrument panel warning lights. In April, the futuristic trucks were recalled to fix gas pedals that can get stuck in the interior trim." I'm just imagining what SNL would look like if Ford fucked in that badly in that short a period of time, especially when you take into consideration other reported issues around trapped passengers in other vehicle models from the same manufacturer.
  - akira2501 2y ago
    Yea, it's a real surprise that a new and unique product with seemingly little regulatory oversight causing death is going to cause people to report on it!
  - parl_match 2y ago
    Tesla's consistently subpar emergency door release situation is definitely worth reporting on, tbh.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
"Cybertruck’s occupants had been driving back from a 'function' around 3:10 a.m. Wednesday" and "it was unlikely that the Cybertruck’s large lithium-ion battery had caught fire."
- smitelli 2y ago
  I would imagine that if the lithium-ion battery caught fire, it would be apparent.
- forgetfreeman 2y ago
  Yeah that 2nd part is kinda interesting. I mean, yes absolutely if the FD had no issues putting the fire out then clearly the battery pack hadn't caught fire but given the obvious lack of flammable liquids involved one is left wondering how the vehicle managed to catch fire in the first place.
  - akira2501 2y ago
    > one is left wondering how the vehicle managed to catch fire in the first place. Any heavy vehicle with _friction_ brakes can generate enough heat to create fire, it turns out spinning metal is always a stored energy hazard regardless of how the motive power was originally supplied. Plus upholstery is pretty flammable. They lace it with chemicals to try to retard that tendency but after a certain point they're going to light up and fuel the fire.
    - forgetfreeman 2y ago
      I'm sorry do what now? You couldn't start a vehicle fire on a bet if you soaked the wheel wells in brake fluid and held the brake pedal to the floor from that vehicle's top speed. You want to start a car fire with brakes that takes the kind of abuse only seen under track conditions combined with a fuel leak, oil leak, or both. So nah, why tf did this vehicle catch fire?
      - akira2501 2y ago
arghnoname 2y ago
The truck isn't to my taste, but absent any indication that this was due to something unique to this automobile I don't see why it's news anymore than people tragically dying in a Camry running into a tree at 3:00 am after a party.
- defrost 2y ago
  There's nothing in the brief article to indicate any Cybertruck specific issues .. external bystanders were able to pull a survivor from the vehicle (eg: doors sprung open or were able to be opened), speed seems to be the probable cause, etc. The only unique to Tesla possibility here (unconfirmed) would be "late night drunks relying on self driving" .. but that remains to be reported.
  - rockemsockem 2y ago
    The cybertruck (thankfully) doesn't have full self driving. EDIT: I'm wrong, it launched without it, but it's since been rolled out.
    - qwerpy 2y ago
      I have a cybertruck. FSD rolled out weeks ago.
      - rockemsockem 2y ago
        Oh, that's good to know. I knew it launched without it and didn't think it'd be updated so fast.
  - akira2501 2y ago
    > would be "late night drunks relying on self driving" .. but that remains to be reported. Alcohol and speed are the cause of _most_ fatalities on our roads. It's a pretty good bet. I'm personally waiting for the story wherein a police officer finds an unattended child in one of these vehicles because the parents couldn't be bothered to bring their child somewhere. Much more likely to happen once these systems become more affordable.
senectus1 2y ago
there were two write offs of the cyber trucks in mexico earlier this month.. no fatalities at all... and given the photo's of the vehicles thats just fricken amazing. https://electrek.co/2024/11/04/two-tesla-cybertrucks-were-destroyed-in-separate-crashes-in-mexico-within-days/ https://electrek.co/2024/11/04/two-tesla-cybertrucks-were-de...
aorloff 2y ago
Bottom line here for anyone who isn't from Texas If you had any regular 3/4 or 1-ton truck, which is what you are getting or better for the price of a cybertruck, everyone wearing a seatbelt survives such an accident. 100% of the time. Serious question - do cybertruck doors work after a crash ?
- maronato 2y ago
  There was a viral video[1] some time ago that showed the internal frame of the door detaching and getting stuck after being closed too hard. I can’t imagine a different outcome from a crash. They tried the same earlier with a Toyota Hilux [2] and the difference is stark. [1]: https://youtube.com/shorts/h1g-ixpbN3s https://youtube.com/shorts/h1g-ixpbN3s [2]: https://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc?t=104 https://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc?t=104

17 points by LopRabbit 2y ago

parl_match 2y ago

Early reports suggest that they were trapped in the vehicle. Horrifying and sad if true.

defrost 2y ago
This AP report states: Someone who also had been at the function, but was driving in a separate car, was able to pull the surviving victim out of the Cybertruck. indicates they were likely not trapped .. unless an external person was able to open doors that an internal person was unable to because { reasons? }.
- parl_match 2y ago
  There's a bunch of other reports and posts, it's big news here in Oakland. It sounds like one of the doors got popped open but the other victims were partially incapacitated or unable to find the release. Judging by the speed of impact, and shape of the body/chassis, it's likely they were alive after impact and burned to death.
qwerpy 2y ago
If there’s anything uniquely attributable to Tesla/Cybertruck I’m sure it will be breathlessly reported on soon.
- forgetfreeman 2y ago
  Seems like they buried the lede pretty hard here: "Other recalls covered rearview camera images that don’t activate immediately after shifting into reverse, trim pieces that can fall off, windshield wipers that can fail, and an incorrect font size on instrument panel warning lights. In April, the futuristic trucks were recalled to fix gas pedals that can get stuck in the interior trim." I'm just imagining what SNL would look like if Ford fucked in that badly in that short a period of time, especially when you take into consideration other reported issues around trapped passengers in other vehicle models from the same manufacturer.
- akira2501 2y ago
  Yea, it's a real surprise that a new and unique product with seemingly little regulatory oversight causing death is going to cause people to report on it!
- parl_match 2y ago
  Tesla's consistently subpar emergency door release situation is definitely worth reporting on, tbh.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

"Cybertruck’s occupants had been driving back from a 'function' around 3:10 a.m. Wednesday" and "it was unlikely that the Cybertruck’s large lithium-ion battery had caught fire."

smitelli 2y ago
I would imagine that if the lithium-ion battery caught fire, it would be apparent.
forgetfreeman 2y ago
Yeah that 2nd part is kinda interesting. I mean, yes absolutely if the FD had no issues putting the fire out then clearly the battery pack hadn't caught fire but given the obvious lack of flammable liquids involved one is left wondering how the vehicle managed to catch fire in the first place.
- akira2501 2y ago
  > one is left wondering how the vehicle managed to catch fire in the first place. Any heavy vehicle with _friction_ brakes can generate enough heat to create fire, it turns out spinning metal is always a stored energy hazard regardless of how the motive power was originally supplied. Plus upholstery is pretty flammable. They lace it with chemicals to try to retard that tendency but after a certain point they're going to light up and fuel the fire.
  - forgetfreeman 2y ago
    I'm sorry do what now? You couldn't start a vehicle fire on a bet if you soaked the wheel wells in brake fluid and held the brake pedal to the floor from that vehicle's top speed. You want to start a car fire with brakes that takes the kind of abuse only seen under track conditions combined with a fuel leak, oil leak, or both. So nah, why tf did this vehicle catch fire?
    - akira2501 2y ago

arghnoname 2y ago

The truck isn't to my taste, but absent any indication that this was due to something unique to this automobile I don't see why it's news anymore than people tragically dying in a Camry running into a tree at 3:00 am after a party.

defrost 2y ago
There's nothing in the brief article to indicate any Cybertruck specific issues .. external bystanders were able to pull a survivor from the vehicle (eg: doors sprung open or were able to be opened), speed seems to be the probable cause, etc. The only unique to Tesla possibility here (unconfirmed) would be "late night drunks relying on self driving" .. but that remains to be reported.
- rockemsockem 2y ago
  The cybertruck (thankfully) doesn't have full self driving. EDIT: I'm wrong, it launched without it, but it's since been rolled out.
  - qwerpy 2y ago
    I have a cybertruck. FSD rolled out weeks ago.
    - rockemsockem 2y ago
      Oh, that's good to know. I knew it launched without it and didn't think it'd be updated so fast.
- akira2501 2y ago
  > would be "late night drunks relying on self driving" .. but that remains to be reported. Alcohol and speed are the cause of _most_ fatalities on our roads. It's a pretty good bet. I'm personally waiting for the story wherein a police officer finds an unattended child in one of these vehicles because the parents couldn't be bothered to bring their child somewhere. Much more likely to happen once these systems become more affordable.

senectus1 2y ago

there were two write offs of the cyber trucks in mexico earlier this month.. no fatalities at all... and given the photo's of the vehicles thats just fricken amazing. https://electrek.co/2024/11/04/two-tesla-cybertrucks-were-destroyed-in-separate-crashes-in-mexico-within-days/ https://electrek.co/2024/11/04/two-tesla-cybertrucks-were-de...

aorloff 2y ago

Bottom line here for anyone who isn't from Texas If you had any regular 3/4 or 1-ton truck, which is what you are getting or better for the price of a cybertruck, everyone wearing a seatbelt survives such an accident. 100% of the time. Serious question - do cybertruck doors work after a crash ?

maronato 2y ago
There was a viral video[1] some time ago that showed the internal frame of the door detaching and getting stuck after being closed too hard. I can’t imagine a different outcome from a crash. They tried the same earlier with a Toyota Hilux [2] and the difference is stark. [1]: https://youtube.com/shorts/h1g-ixpbN3s https://youtube.com/shorts/h1g-ixpbN3s [2]: https://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc?t=104 https://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc?t=104