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ICANN and IANA could effectively delist .su despite Russian Federation's "decline". How much silly and outdated the WHOIS protocol is, the client queries IANA

by voytec 2y ago

ICANN and IANA could effectively delist .su despite Russian Federation's "decline". How much silly and outdated the WHOIS protocol is, the client queries IANA and only then is forwarded to RIPN (Russian Institute for Public Networks).

exe34 2y ago
can Russia force local clients to go through ripn? it would fragment the web further but it's not like others haven't done their own fragmenting.
- voytec 2y ago
  I'd guess that it's actually a requirement. Domains registered under ccTLDs (country-code top level domains) are managed by regional bodies[0]. In case of .su, it's either RIPN or ROSNIIROS[1] which manages the registry and registrations. But again - IANA is universally queried about given TLD and redirects the query to regional body. In case of .su: > whois yandex.su % IANA WHOIS server % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org % This query returned 1 object refer: whois.tcinet.ru domain: SU organisation: Russian Institute for Development of Public Networks organisation: (ROSNIIROS) (...) # whois.tcinet.ru % TCI Whois Service. Terms of use: % https://tcinet.ru/documents/whois_ru_rf.pdf (in Russian) % https://tcinet.ru/documents/whois_su.pdf (in Russian) domain: YANDEX.SU nserver: ns1.snparking.ru. (...) state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED [0] USUALLY; .tk, .ga, .cf, .gq were managed by by infamous Freenom due to incapability of owners to do it themselves [1] https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/su.html https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/su.html
  - notpushkin 2y ago
    > USUALLY I think it's actually fairly common to delegate, no? .io was ran by just one guy at some point (or so I've heard). .us is run by GoDaddy (but I think the US government does keep them in check).

by voytec 2y ago

exe34 2y ago

can Russia force local clients to go through ripn? it would fragment the web further but it's not like others haven't done their own fragmenting.

voytec 2y ago
I'd guess that it's actually a requirement. Domains registered under ccTLDs (country-code top level domains) are managed by regional bodies[0]. In case of .su, it's either RIPN or ROSNIIROS[1] which manages the registry and registrations. But again - IANA is universally queried about given TLD and redirects the query to regional body. In case of .su: > whois yandex.su % IANA WHOIS server % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org % This query returned 1 object refer: whois.tcinet.ru domain: SU organisation: Russian Institute for Development of Public Networks organisation: (ROSNIIROS) (...) # whois.tcinet.ru % TCI Whois Service. Terms of use: % https://tcinet.ru/documents/whois_ru_rf.pdf (in Russian) % https://tcinet.ru/documents/whois_su.pdf (in Russian) domain: YANDEX.SU nserver: ns1.snparking.ru. (...) state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED [0] USUALLY; .tk, .ga, .cf, .gq were managed by by infamous Freenom due to incapability of owners to do it themselves [1] https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/su.html https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/su.html
- notpushkin 2y ago
  > USUALLY I think it's actually fairly common to delegate, no? .io was ran by just one guy at some point (or so I've heard). .us is run by GoDaddy (but I think the US government does keep them in check).