7 ms·

They're running a business.. it's not like you can't buy any Apple products in Ireland, running a retail store is likely not worth the hassle. As for taxes tha

by harha 2y ago

They're running a business.. it's not like you can't buy any Apple products in Ireland, running a retail store is likely not worth the hassle. As for taxes that's on the EU and member countries for having such a complexity that only massive corporates can benefit, rather than simplifying and making it worthwhile to operate for businesses of all sizes.

wkat4242 2y ago
It's not really about buying, it's the support. It's much worse through the incompetent resellers they have in Ireland. But the tax dodging should be eliminated completely, not expanded to smaller businesses :)
- RickarySanchez 2y ago
  Pretty sure the reason they don't have stores in Ireland is due to taxation agreement with the government. Similar to the Shannon airport thing that started it all
  - piltdownman 2y ago
    Complete nonsense. Their tax minimisation structure involved one Apple company paying royalties to another Apple company for access to IP. How on earth would the retail business, another separate entity, have any impact?
- Cumpiler69 2y ago
  >But the tax dodging should be eliminated completely, not expanded to smaller businesses :) Tax incentives should be awarded to smaller businesses though while mega-corps should pay more. We can't be surprised that we don't have any great SW giants in Europe when Ireland awards these generous tax breaks to US giants but small EU companies get the full shaft. We have progressiver taxation for income, why doesn't that apply to corporations as well? I mean we do, but it functions the exact opposite of how it should, favoring the giants and strangling the start-ups. And I'm not even a socialist, but the current system is ridiculous.
Loughla 2y ago
>As for taxes that's on the EU and member countries for having such a complexity that only massive corporates can benefit Isn't Apple a massive corporation? I don't think I understand your argument here.
- harha 2y ago
  The parent post argued Apple only cares about tax benefits in Ireland. To me it’s a perfectly valid reason to operate in a country, it’s on the countries to provide an environment where local businesses benefit from low taxes, and not only large corporations like Apple.

by harha 2y ago

wkat4242 2y ago

It's not really about buying, it's the support. It's much worse through the incompetent resellers they have in Ireland. But the tax dodging should be eliminated completely, not expanded to smaller businesses :)

RickarySanchez 2y ago
Pretty sure the reason they don't have stores in Ireland is due to taxation agreement with the government. Similar to the Shannon airport thing that started it all
- piltdownman 2y ago
  Complete nonsense. Their tax minimisation structure involved one Apple company paying royalties to another Apple company for access to IP. How on earth would the retail business, another separate entity, have any impact?
Cumpiler69 2y ago
>But the tax dodging should be eliminated completely, not expanded to smaller businesses :) Tax incentives should be awarded to smaller businesses though while mega-corps should pay more. We can't be surprised that we don't have any great SW giants in Europe when Ireland awards these generous tax breaks to US giants but small EU companies get the full shaft. We have progressiver taxation for income, why doesn't that apply to corporations as well? I mean we do, but it functions the exact opposite of how it should, favoring the giants and strangling the start-ups. And I'm not even a socialist, but the current system is ridiculous.

Loughla 2y ago

>As for taxes that's on the EU and member countries for having such a complexity that only massive corporates can benefit Isn't Apple a massive corporation? I don't think I understand your argument here.

harha 2y ago
The parent post argued Apple only cares about tax benefits in Ireland. To me it’s a perfectly valid reason to operate in a country, it’s on the countries to provide an environment where local businesses benefit from low taxes, and not only large corporations like Apple.