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I can't help but be reminded of http://xkcd.com/927/ http://xkcd.com/927/ every time I see a new collaborative editor. Whether it's Cloud9, Google Collide, Coll

by Permit 14y ago

I can't help but be reminded of http://xkcd.com/927/ http://xkcd.com/927/ every time I see a new collaborative editor. Whether it's Cloud9, Google Collide, Collabedit or Space, one must sacrifice all the benefits of their current IDE in order to use this one. Wouldn't these sorts of projects make infinitely more sense as a plugin for an established text editor or IDE like Sublime or Visual Studio?

aantix 14y ago
Couldn't agree more. I wrote up similar thoughts a few months ago where I tried to outline a lightweight protocol that would be implemented at the editor level (as a plugin) to support common editor functions such as opening files, switching tabs, and of course real-time syncing. https://gist.github.com/1999816 https://gist.github.com/1999816
- Permit 14y ago
  I hadn't even considered a cross text-editor solution/protocol. That's a fantastic idea.
  - jaggederest 14y ago
    I don't like it. People should be required to use Emacs to be privileged to program with me.
    - gcr 14y ago
      Rudel (emacs plugin), in theory, supports multiple collaboration protocols. They've already implemented one.
    - Produce 14y ago
      You misspelled Vim.
      - jaggederest 14y ago
        Clearly you don't understand that Emacs is a perfectly suitable Vim.
        Produce 14y ago
        Why would I emulate perfection?
- gcr 14y ago
  Also look at Obby/Infinote. http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Infinote http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Infinote
protonormal 14y ago
Definitely. There is a project at the FU Berlin. [Saros - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming](http://www.saros-project.org/ http://www.saros-project.org/) It's based on the Eclipse platform and XMPP.
dwiel 14y ago
Thats why we use ssh/tmux for our remote pair programming. Works pretty well if your "ide" is already in a terminal
gcr 14y ago
I only think this would be a problem if different coders accustomed to different "browser/collaborative IDEs" want to code with each other. As long as all of these stick with the standard filesystem heirarchy, everything should still be fine, but it would be awesome to watch them adopt a single backend like the Obby/Infinote protocol or something.

by Permit 14y ago

aantix 14y ago

Couldn't agree more. I wrote up similar thoughts a few months ago where I tried to outline a lightweight protocol that would be implemented at the editor level (as a plugin) to support common editor functions such as opening files, switching tabs, and of course real-time syncing. https://gist.github.com/1999816 https://gist.github.com/1999816

Permit 14y ago
I hadn't even considered a cross text-editor solution/protocol. That's a fantastic idea.
- jaggederest 14y ago
  I don't like it. People should be required to use Emacs to be privileged to program with me.
  - gcr 14y ago
    Rudel (emacs plugin), in theory, supports multiple collaboration protocols. They've already implemented one.
  - Produce 14y ago
    You misspelled Vim.
    - jaggederest 14y ago
      Clearly you don't understand that Emacs is a perfectly suitable Vim.
      - Produce 14y ago
        Why would I emulate perfection?
gcr 14y ago
Also look at Obby/Infinote. http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Infinote http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Infinote

protonormal 14y ago

Definitely. There is a project at the FU Berlin. [Saros - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming](http://www.saros-project.org/ http://www.saros-project.org/) It's based on the Eclipse platform and XMPP.

dwiel 14y ago

Thats why we use ssh/tmux for our remote pair programming. Works pretty well if your "ide" is already in a terminal

gcr 14y ago

I only think this would be a problem if different coders accustomed to different "browser/collaborative IDEs" want to code with each other. As long as all of these stick with the standard filesystem heirarchy, everything should still be fine, but it would be awesome to watch them adopt a single backend like the Obby/Infinote protocol or something.