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Did people stop having meltdown about politics? When I installed few days ago every post was about politics it was suffocating.

michael_nielsen 2y ago
I see virtually no politics. Maybe don't follow accounts which post about politics?
- leosanchez 2y ago
  I didn't follow anybody. It was all I saw after creating account (which was just after US election results). Maybe i should give it another try.
- amazingamazing 2y ago
  You see posts even without following anyone smh
swed420 2y ago
Considering the world is on an insane trajectory, it's probably good politics is being discussed. If you can't handle reality, try blocking based on keywords to insulate yourself from it.
- hagbard_c 2y ago
  Discussing politics in an echo chamber - which is what BS has rather quickly devolved into - does not help in resolving the 'insane trajectory' the world is supposed to be on. To resolve that it should not just be discussed but also acted upon in the real world where everyone gets to have a say instead of just those who happen to follow the desired narrative. Such discussions tend to be contentious and often not at all 'nice' but that's what you get when discussing important issues in an open forum. In that respect X does a lot better than heavily polarised venues like BS ('left') or Gab ('right'). Of course X will only be better in this respect as long as there are some 'progressives' who refrain from following the herd to the next echo chamber. If all of them leave X will become another Gab.
  - swed420 2y ago
    Your compressed Overton window isn't doing you any favors. If all you see is "left" on bluesky, then you're operating on the terms that liberals and conservatives use, usually unconsciously, to further the interests of capital at their own expense. If you look closer, you'll see that liberal != leftist, and both exist on BS, and not exclusively in echo chambers. There's currently a shift or awakening happening where some liberals are actually self reflecting for a change, because they realize they're standing on false ground. Also, you can see on the bluesky subreddit that many users are aware that they shouldn't be blindly trusting the curated user blocklists, if for no other reason that they're being curated dishonestly (surprise, surprise). Old Twitter was always a steaming pile, and Musk didn't change that with X. Bluesky is actually innovative and refreshing. Time will tell how that holds up.
    - hagbard_c 2y ago
      To me "liberal" has nothing to do with "left" since I'm not American and as such use the term in its original meaning. As to the width of the window of allow discourse I'll just say that as far as I'm concerned it is only limited to the law of the land no matter which terms - left/right/liberal/conservative/progressive/whatever - you want to use. That wide window is not what I see on BS nor on Mastodon but it is starting to become visible on X. Such wide windows let in a lot of noise but that is part of deal.
      - swed420 2y ago
        > To me "liberal" has nothing to do with "left" Then we do agree on something. Your previous message vaguely lumping all of the "left" together suggested otherwise. Mastodon has always been mostly liberals in an echo chamber who fled from Twitter. Lemmy to a lesser extent via reddit's api fiasco, but that's a good example of the liberals and leftists siloing themselves on the same platform through ideological instances, resulting in echo chambers. The tech issues of those two still isn't ironed out, either. Between needing an account to merely view posts and Musk's willingness for knee-jerk censorship, X is simply a non-starter in 2024.
esskay 2y ago
Never seen any politics on there personally. It seems to respect your interests a bit better. Grab a few starterlists for subjects you're interested in and that should narrow it down and make it more tailored.

michael_nielsen 2y ago

I see virtually no politics. Maybe don't follow accounts which post about politics?

leosanchez 2y ago
I didn't follow anybody. It was all I saw after creating account (which was just after US election results). Maybe i should give it another try.
amazingamazing 2y ago
You see posts even without following anyone smh

swed420 2y ago

Considering the world is on an insane trajectory, it's probably good politics is being discussed. If you can't handle reality, try blocking based on keywords to insulate yourself from it.

hagbard_c 2y ago
Discussing politics in an echo chamber - which is what BS has rather quickly devolved into - does not help in resolving the 'insane trajectory' the world is supposed to be on. To resolve that it should not just be discussed but also acted upon in the real world where everyone gets to have a say instead of just those who happen to follow the desired narrative. Such discussions tend to be contentious and often not at all 'nice' but that's what you get when discussing important issues in an open forum. In that respect X does a lot better than heavily polarised venues like BS ('left') or Gab ('right'). Of course X will only be better in this respect as long as there are some 'progressives' who refrain from following the herd to the next echo chamber. If all of them leave X will become another Gab.
- swed420 2y ago
  Your compressed Overton window isn't doing you any favors. If all you see is "left" on bluesky, then you're operating on the terms that liberals and conservatives use, usually unconsciously, to further the interests of capital at their own expense. If you look closer, you'll see that liberal != leftist, and both exist on BS, and not exclusively in echo chambers. There's currently a shift or awakening happening where some liberals are actually self reflecting for a change, because they realize they're standing on false ground. Also, you can see on the bluesky subreddit that many users are aware that they shouldn't be blindly trusting the curated user blocklists, if for no other reason that they're being curated dishonestly (surprise, surprise). Old Twitter was always a steaming pile, and Musk didn't change that with X. Bluesky is actually innovative and refreshing. Time will tell how that holds up.
  - hagbard_c 2y ago
    To me "liberal" has nothing to do with "left" since I'm not American and as such use the term in its original meaning. As to the width of the window of allow discourse I'll just say that as far as I'm concerned it is only limited to the law of the land no matter which terms - left/right/liberal/conservative/progressive/whatever - you want to use. That wide window is not what I see on BS nor on Mastodon but it is starting to become visible on X. Such wide windows let in a lot of noise but that is part of deal.
    - swed420 2y ago
      > To me "liberal" has nothing to do with "left" Then we do agree on something. Your previous message vaguely lumping all of the "left" together suggested otherwise. Mastodon has always been mostly liberals in an echo chamber who fled from Twitter. Lemmy to a lesser extent via reddit's api fiasco, but that's a good example of the liberals and leftists siloing themselves on the same platform through ideological instances, resulting in echo chambers. The tech issues of those two still isn't ironed out, either. Between needing an account to merely view posts and Musk's willingness for knee-jerk censorship, X is simply a non-starter in 2024.

esskay 2y ago

Never seen any politics on there personally. It seems to respect your interests a bit better. Grab a few starterlists for subjects you're interested in and that should narrow it down and make it more tailored.