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Doesn’t Apple offer a way to re-pair components if they are genuine and not stolen (unregistered from the previous AppleId)?

fragmede 2y ago
and Apple will very happily charge you for that privilege
- jajko 2y ago
  TBH for such a critical piece of our modern lives, I would be more than fine to pay extra to be 100% sure I am getting original parts, put in professionally and in secure manner re my personal data. I wish ie Samsung had such service where I live. We anyway talk about expensive premium phones to start with, so relatively expensive after-warranty service is not shocking. This may actually eventually sway me into apple camp. This and what seems like much better theft discouragement.
  - raxxorraxor 2y ago
    I don't. Such mechanisms also disqualify 3rd party replacements. It is just a wasteful solution. Not that any smartphone would qualify as decent here. But as a customer it will overall be more expensive for you.
    - jajko 2y ago
      There are things in life where amount paid is far from top priority, and phone is one these days. With sums we talk about, I just don't care anymore, and Samsung I have now is even more expensive and more wasteful. Re wastefulness - a decent laptop causes 10x more pollution to manufacture than phone. Desktop PC 10x that. TVs. Cars. Clothing. Phones are very much down a very long line of higher priority targets for eco friendly approach.
      - raxxorraxor 2y ago
        I personally don't care much about $ but many probably are. I care that the manufacturers don't work with user orientation in mind and instead take advantage of them. I don't want to be a customer here. Replacement parts are possible and we maybe need regulation on that front to reduce waste. I doesn't matter if other devices are worse. Other example have a longer shelf life or are at least repairable without being tied to a manufacturer. Notebooks have similar problems and the critique can be transferred here in a similar way. I see synergies in possible rules here of course.
    - pkolaczk 2y ago
      3rd party replacements should be allowed but the firmware should allow me to check if any third party replacements have been made. I’d like to know when buying second hand phone if it has genuine parts. Third part replacements are usually of much worse quality (I tried that many times e.g. with third party toners for HP and every single time they turned out to be a waste of money).

fragmede 2y ago

and Apple will very happily charge you for that privilege

jajko 2y ago
TBH for such a critical piece of our modern lives, I would be more than fine to pay extra to be 100% sure I am getting original parts, put in professionally and in secure manner re my personal data. I wish ie Samsung had such service where I live. We anyway talk about expensive premium phones to start with, so relatively expensive after-warranty service is not shocking. This may actually eventually sway me into apple camp. This and what seems like much better theft discouragement.
- raxxorraxor 2y ago
  I don't. Such mechanisms also disqualify 3rd party replacements. It is just a wasteful solution. Not that any smartphone would qualify as decent here. But as a customer it will overall be more expensive for you.
  - jajko 2y ago
    There are things in life where amount paid is far from top priority, and phone is one these days. With sums we talk about, I just don't care anymore, and Samsung I have now is even more expensive and more wasteful. Re wastefulness - a decent laptop causes 10x more pollution to manufacture than phone. Desktop PC 10x that. TVs. Cars. Clothing. Phones are very much down a very long line of higher priority targets for eco friendly approach.
    - raxxorraxor 2y ago
      I personally don't care much about $ but many probably are. I care that the manufacturers don't work with user orientation in mind and instead take advantage of them. I don't want to be a customer here. Replacement parts are possible and we maybe need regulation on that front to reduce waste. I doesn't matter if other devices are worse. Other example have a longer shelf life or are at least repairable without being tied to a manufacturer. Notebooks have similar problems and the critique can be transferred here in a similar way. I see synergies in possible rules here of course.
  - pkolaczk 2y ago
    3rd party replacements should be allowed but the firmware should allow me to check if any third party replacements have been made. I’d like to know when buying second hand phone if it has genuine parts. Third part replacements are usually of much worse quality (I tried that many times e.g. with third party toners for HP and every single time they turned out to be a waste of money).