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I have probably written this comment about a dozen times on HN already, but: I agree completely, because people don't listen to podcasts purely for information,

I have probably written this comment about a dozen times on HN already, but: I agree completely, because people don't listen to podcasts purely for information, they listen for information plus community, personality, or just a basic human connection. If you're a content creator today, the best thing you can do to "AI-proof" your work is to inject your personality into it as much as possible. Preferably your physical personality, on video. The future of human content is being as human as possible. AI isn't going to replace that in our lifetimes, if ever.

Nevermark 2y ago
> The future of human content is being as human as possible. AI isn't going to replace that in our lifetimes, if ever. I have been working on machine learning algorithms for a long time. Since the time when telling someone I worked on AI was a conversation killer, even with technical people. AI's are going to understand people better than people understand people. That could be in five years, maybe - many things are happening faster than expected. Or in 15 years. But that might be the outside range. There is something about human psychology where the faster something changes, the less we are aware of the rate of change. We don't review the steps and their increasing rate that happened before we cared about that tech. We just accept the new thing that finally gets our attention like it was a one off event, instead of an accelerating compounding flood, and imagine it isn't really going to change much soon. -- I know this isn't a popular view. But what is happening is on the order of the transition to the first multi-cellular creatures, or the first bodies with specialized cells, the first nervous systems, the first brains, the first creatures to use language. Far bigger than advances such as writing or even the Internet. This is a transition to a completely new mode for the substrate of life and intelligence. The lack of dependency on any particular substrate. "We", the new generation of things we are building, will have none of the limits and inefficiencies of our ancient slow DNA-style life. Or our stark physical bottlenecks on action, communication, or scaling, and our inability to understand or directly edit our own internal traits. We will have to face many challenges in the coming years. It can't hurt to mindfully face them earlier than later.
- keiferski 2y ago
  Sorry but I don’t think this is much evidence of anything. The point at which an AI can imitate a live-streaming human being is decades away. By then, we will almost certainly have developed a “real Human ID” system that verifies one’s humanity. I wrote about this more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42154928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42154928 The idea that AI is just going to eat all human creative activity because technology accelerates quickly is not a real argument, nor does it stand up to any serious projections of the future.
  - mattmaroon 2y ago
    How do you know it is decades away? A few years ago did you think LLMs would be where they are today? Is it possible you’re wrong?
    - keiferski 2y ago
      Of course it’s possible I’m wrong. But if we make any sort of projection based on current developments, it would certainly seem that live-streaming AI indistinguishable from a human being is vastly beyond the capabilities of anything out today, and given current expenses and development times, seems to be at least a few decades in the future. To me that is an optimistic assumption, especially assuming that live presence or video quality will continue to improve as well (making it harder to fake.) If you have a projection that says otherwise, I’d be glad to hear it. But if you don’t, then this idea is merely science fiction. Making predictions about the future that are based on current accelerating developments are how you get people in the 1930s predicting flying cars by 2000.
      - nuancebydefault 2y ago
        For many people current AI created videos are already confused for real videos and vice versa. When you follow up on technology by browsing HN, and see the latest advancements, its easier to see or hear the differences, because you know at what to look. If I see on tv some badly encoded video, especially in fog or water surfaces, it immediately stands out, because I was working with video decoding during the time it was of much less quality. Most people will not notice.
NemoNobody 2y ago
I just took a poll about art that had 50 examples and you had to choose which were human and which were not - I did very well, bc I'm awesome but apparently it shook the art world to its core, many of the professionals have no idea how to tell the difference/can't tell the difference. The elements that identified a painting as human to me had nothing to do with appearance but everything to do with feeling. Be passionate about what you present - if you can't be, don't bother. Passion is what will distinguish us from the AI - stuff like personality is almost immediately replicated, vocal inflections, funny comments, unusual spoken delivery - that's all within the realm of AI capability. Talking about micro blogging like it's God's gift to the world, not so much an AI thing, it won't feel right with AI.

Nevermark 2y ago

> The future of human content is being as human as possible. AI isn't going to replace that in our lifetimes, if ever. I have been working on machine learning algorithms for a long time. Since the time when telling someone I worked on AI was a conversation killer, even with technical people. AI's are going to understand people better than people understand people. That could be in five years, maybe - many things are happening faster than expected. Or in 15 years. But that might be the outside range. There is something about human psychology where the faster something changes, the less we are aware of the rate of change. We don't review the steps and their increasing rate that happened before we cared about that tech. We just accept the new thing that finally gets our attention like it was a one off event, instead of an accelerating compounding flood, and imagine it isn't really going to change much soon. -- I know this isn't a popular view. But what is happening is on the order of the transition to the first multi-cellular creatures, or the first bodies with specialized cells, the first nervous systems, the first brains, the first creatures to use language. Far bigger than advances such as writing or even the Internet. This is a transition to a completely new mode for the substrate of life and intelligence. The lack of dependency on any particular substrate. "We", the new generation of things we are building, will have none of the limits and inefficiencies of our ancient slow DNA-style life. Or our stark physical bottlenecks on action, communication, or scaling, and our inability to understand or directly edit our own internal traits. We will have to face many challenges in the coming years. It can't hurt to mindfully face them earlier than later.

keiferski 2y ago
Sorry but I don’t think this is much evidence of anything. The point at which an AI can imitate a live-streaming human being is decades away. By then, we will almost certainly have developed a “real Human ID” system that verifies one’s humanity. I wrote about this more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42154928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42154928 The idea that AI is just going to eat all human creative activity because technology accelerates quickly is not a real argument, nor does it stand up to any serious projections of the future.
- mattmaroon 2y ago
  How do you know it is decades away? A few years ago did you think LLMs would be where they are today? Is it possible you’re wrong?
  - keiferski 2y ago
    Of course it’s possible I’m wrong. But if we make any sort of projection based on current developments, it would certainly seem that live-streaming AI indistinguishable from a human being is vastly beyond the capabilities of anything out today, and given current expenses and development times, seems to be at least a few decades in the future. To me that is an optimistic assumption, especially assuming that live presence or video quality will continue to improve as well (making it harder to fake.) If you have a projection that says otherwise, I’d be glad to hear it. But if you don’t, then this idea is merely science fiction. Making predictions about the future that are based on current accelerating developments are how you get people in the 1930s predicting flying cars by 2000.
    - nuancebydefault 2y ago
      For many people current AI created videos are already confused for real videos and vice versa. When you follow up on technology by browsing HN, and see the latest advancements, its easier to see or hear the differences, because you know at what to look. If I see on tv some badly encoded video, especially in fog or water surfaces, it immediately stands out, because I was working with video decoding during the time it was of much less quality. Most people will not notice.

NemoNobody 2y ago

I just took a poll about art that had 50 examples and you had to choose which were human and which were not - I did very well, bc I'm awesome but apparently it shook the art world to its core, many of the professionals have no idea how to tell the difference/can't tell the difference. The elements that identified a painting as human to me had nothing to do with appearance but everything to do with feeling. Be passionate about what you present - if you can't be, don't bother. Passion is what will distinguish us from the AI - stuff like personality is almost immediately replicated, vocal inflections, funny comments, unusual spoken delivery - that's all within the realm of AI capability. Talking about micro blogging like it's God's gift to the world, not so much an AI thing, it won't feel right with AI.