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Maybe it's borderline not "Western", but Turkey famously haven't gotten to allow people to refuse service. > In 2021 Europe was not a safe place for many consc
by diggan 2y ago
Maybe it's borderline not "Western", but Turkey famously haven't gotten to allow people to refuse service.
> In 2021 Europe was not a safe place for many conscientious objectors in several countries who faced prosecution, arrests, trials by military courts, imprisonments, fines, intimidation, attacks, death threats, and discrimination. These countries include Turkey (the only CoE Member State who has not yet recognised the right to conscientious objection)
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-05/EBCO-HRC50.pdf https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-05/EBCO-HRC50...
I think I remember talking with some Greek person at some point as well, where "conscientious objection" theoretically exists, but the alternative ends up longer than the military service + basically feels like a punishment, rather than an alternative.
- alephnerd 2y agoBy "Western" I think I meant "stereotypical Western and Northern European" > I think I remember talking with some Greek person at some point as well, where "conscientious objection" theoretically exists, but the alternative ends up longer than the military service + basically feels like a punishment, rather than an alternative. Same in Israel and South Korea
- Ekaros 2y agoFinland too has options of military service, civil service(guaranteed to be equal length to maximum military) or incarceration. Later which usually is mostly not inside institution, but with tracking and quarantine inside home. Getting too fat would work if you find a doctor to write a paper and you will get away with it during peace time.