> That's a lot of presumptions: That the creator is perfect, there is even a perfect, what I (Leibniz) call perfect is the god's/gods' perfect, ... while not gi

> That's a lot of presumptions: That the creator is perfect, there is even a perfect, what I (Leibniz) call perfect is the god's/gods' perfect, ... while not giving a frame of reference. The Creator (First Mover) being perfect is not a presumption, but rather a conclusion; see Corollary 1.3: * https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2014/11/first-way-part-iv-cascades.html https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2014/11/first-way-part-iv-casca... (You'll need to go through the series of weblog posts (they're not that long) to get the full logic of the argument.) See also perhaps Aquinas, "Whether God is perfect?": * https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1004.htm https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1004.htm