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I was really excited about this until I saw the specs; they seem singularly unremarkable. 1 gig of ram, and a say what, a T33 maybe? Am I completely off the d

I was really excited about this until I saw the specs; they seem singularly unremarkable. 1 gig of ram, and a say what, a T33 maybe? Am I completely off the deep end here or is that like an order of magnitude less powerful (abit with more ram) than say, an xbox. So its cheap. Big deal, so is the Pi and say, http://www.androidauthority.com/remember-the-74-android-pc-now-it-has-a-53-little-brother-95354/ http://www.androidauthority.com/remember-the-74-android-pc-n... I'm kind of dubious about the value proposition of something that wants to be a full blown console, but is basically just a slight lower spec'd version of my phone. If you want to get me excited, stick 8 GB of ram on that thing and an intel based 3.2 Ghz cpu with a gpu that can run say, UT. That would effectively !!!! all over the state of the art for android devices AND consoles. This? It'll be obsolete by the time it even exists.

mtgx 14y ago
No, it's not an order of magnitude less powerful. Tegra 3 games look almost console-like. And you can play a lot of older emulator games on this, too. Next year's ARM hardware should all but match the Xbox 360 hardware performance.
- sixbrx 14y ago
  Xbox will probably be refreshed next year, though.
  - mtgx 14y ago
    Sure, but it will cost a few hundred dollars more. And many people might not want these just for games, but for media stuff, and they would find the $99 price a lot more attractive than $300-$400 for such tasks.
    - heretohelp 14y ago
      So it'll become a glorified Netflix player. Wonderful? This sort of our point, it's not useful for anything it purports to be useful for...like gaming.
    - sixbrx 14y ago
      Not trying to denigrate the new device, just pointing out that comparisons are being made of a new device with a device which is near the end of its rather long refresh cycle. Of course that tends to favor the new device. I expect the xbox to jump ahead in performance by a significant amount after the refresh.
- shadowmint 14y ago
  Are you sure of that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor) The xbox 360 GPU has 48 shaders and the core cpu is a 3-core running at 3.2 GHz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_3 The tegra 3 is a quad core 1.4-1.6 Ghz cpu with 8 shaders. 8. That's not console level graphics. Don't get me wrong, it's better than most phones might have, but it's literally half as fast, and has 1/6th as many shaders. That's a massive gap. I can't help but think the stuff that runs on this phone will just be meh, especially on high res displays. Edit: And just to give you some idea how distant that is from 'state of the art', the geforce GTX 690 is running 3072 shaders and has 4 GB of on board ram.

mtgx 14y ago

No, it's not an order of magnitude less powerful. Tegra 3 games look almost console-like. And you can play a lot of older emulator games on this, too. Next year's ARM hardware should all but match the Xbox 360 hardware performance.

sixbrx 14y ago
Xbox will probably be refreshed next year, though.
- mtgx 14y ago
  Sure, but it will cost a few hundred dollars more. And many people might not want these just for games, but for media stuff, and they would find the $99 price a lot more attractive than $300-$400 for such tasks.
  - heretohelp 14y ago
    So it'll become a glorified Netflix player. Wonderful? This sort of our point, it's not useful for anything it purports to be useful for...like gaming.
  - sixbrx 14y ago
    Not trying to denigrate the new device, just pointing out that comparisons are being made of a new device with a device which is near the end of its rather long refresh cycle. Of course that tends to favor the new device. I expect the xbox to jump ahead in performance by a significant amount after the refresh.
shadowmint 14y ago
Are you sure of that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_(graphics_chip) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon_(processor) The xbox 360 GPU has 48 shaders and the core cpu is a 3-core running at 3.2 GHz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_3 The tegra 3 is a quad core 1.4-1.6 Ghz cpu with 8 shaders. 8. That's not console level graphics. Don't get me wrong, it's better than most phones might have, but it's literally half as fast, and has 1/6th as many shaders. That's a massive gap. I can't help but think the stuff that runs on this phone will just be meh, especially on high res displays. Edit: And just to give you some idea how distant that is from 'state of the art', the geforce GTX 690 is running 3072 shaders and has 4 GB of on board ram.