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> Getting those gas guzzling truck owners to go electric would be nice too. Congratulations, you solved 1 issue related to car dependency and proliferation of

> Getting those gas guzzling truck owners to go electric would be nice too. Congratulations, you solved 1 issue related to car dependency and proliferation of huge vehicles, namely tailpipe emissions. Now the other 99 remain. The solution to gas guzzling trucks is "boring", it's good trains, it's protected bike lanes in urban environments, it's smaller and safer cars in less dense environments, etc. But these things don't make Mr Musk money :)

gibolt 2y ago
Trains will not enter American suburbs, nor will most truck drivers consider biking as a valid alternative. I'm all for better transit, but it doesn't change that the trucks/SUVs keep selling and getting more polluting, and will do so for decades as part of the fleet
- nahwut 2y ago
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- cableshaft 2y ago
  Train stations are in many of the Chicago suburbs already and take on average 280,000[1] commuters to and from downtown Chicago on a daily basis (it's called the Metra system). Hell, I just found out those same commuter lines extend all the way north to Kenosha, Wisconsin, and east to South Bend, Indiana, so into neighboring states. I did know people who commuted to Chicago from Indiana everyday so that's not too surprising. [1]: https://metra.com/ridership-data https://metra.com/ridership-data
  - gibolt 2y ago
    They exist, but new ones aren't being regularly added...
    - cableshaft 2y ago
      Well at least for Chicago, they are actively extending one of their lines all the way west to Rockford (which is 90 miles away), which should start running in late 2027[1]. Like I'd have to drive an hour and a half to get to Rockford from where I'm at in the far Chicago suburbs. And I'd be driving past a lot of corn fields to do so. So that's pretty far. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockford_Intercity_Passenger_Rail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockford_Intercity_Passenger_R...
alt227 2y ago
> it's protected bike lanes in urban environments Sorry but they are not solutions to gas guzzling trucks. Trucks are utility vehicles which carry things. Materials to building sites, hay bales to fields, sports equpiment to the beach/river etc. These functions are not going to be replaced by bike lanes, trains, and small efficient cars. The real solutions are hydrogen and synthetic fuel.

gibolt 2y ago

Trains will not enter American suburbs, nor will most truck drivers consider biking as a valid alternative. I'm all for better transit, but it doesn't change that the trucks/SUVs keep selling and getting more polluting, and will do so for decades as part of the fleet

nahwut 2y ago
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cableshaft 2y ago
Train stations are in many of the Chicago suburbs already and take on average 280,000[1] commuters to and from downtown Chicago on a daily basis (it's called the Metra system). Hell, I just found out those same commuter lines extend all the way north to Kenosha, Wisconsin, and east to South Bend, Indiana, so into neighboring states. I did know people who commuted to Chicago from Indiana everyday so that's not too surprising. [1]: https://metra.com/ridership-data https://metra.com/ridership-data
- gibolt 2y ago
  They exist, but new ones aren't being regularly added...
  - cableshaft 2y ago
    Well at least for Chicago, they are actively extending one of their lines all the way west to Rockford (which is 90 miles away), which should start running in late 2027[1]. Like I'd have to drive an hour and a half to get to Rockford from where I'm at in the far Chicago suburbs. And I'd be driving past a lot of corn fields to do so. So that's pretty far. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockford_Intercity_Passenger_Rail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockford_Intercity_Passenger_R...

alt227 2y ago

> it's protected bike lanes in urban environments Sorry but they are not solutions to gas guzzling trucks. Trucks are utility vehicles which carry things. Materials to building sites, hay bales to fields, sports equpiment to the beach/river etc. These functions are not going to be replaced by bike lanes, trains, and small efficient cars. The real solutions are hydrogen and synthetic fuel.