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I used to root for this guy until he became pro-Putin.
by adamnemecek 2y ago
I used to root for this guy until he became pro-Putin.
- pfannkuchen 2y agoWhen you say pro-Putin, do you mean actually pro-Putin or just for ending the war in Ukraine? At this point I feel like the people protesting the Vietnam war would be regarded by the current online zeitgeist as “pro-Mao”.
- gradyfps 2y agoFrom his Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom#Promotion_of_conspiracy_theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom#Promotion_of_conspi... "During the Russo-Ukrainian War, Dotcom has repeatedly spread anti-Ukrainian falsehoods, and Russian government propaganda. Critics accuse him of spreading Russian Federation propaganda such as: claims of Nazism in Ukraine, Ukrainian attacks on Russian-speaking minority, claims of American "biolaboratories" in Ukraine, and accusing the US of causing the Russian Federation's invasion of Ukraine." As with all Wikipedia refs, review their sources yourself.
- auntienomen 2y agoAlthough, the sources in this case are basically articles citing things he said on Twitter.
- yakshaving_jgt 2y agoDoes that make them invalid? Surely we’re not expecting to see Dotcom’s dangerous misinformation published in a peer reviewed scientific journal?
- mingus88 2y agoI believe OPs point was that there is very little ambiguity when the source is his very own words posted by him directly
- indigo0086 2y agoAre his words untrue or just disliked?
- yakshaving_jgt 2y agoDotcom's? Dotcom's words are untrue, yes.
- tokinonagare 2y ago> Critics accuse him of spreading Russian Federation propaganda such as: claims of Nazism in Ukraine, Ukrainian attacks on Russian-speaking minority, claims of American "biolaboratories" in Ukraine, and accusing the US of causing the Russian Federation's invasion of Ukraine." At least the claim regarding nazism is very valid. Heck, Ukraine has a whole bataillon using that emblem[1], featuring a rune-like SS symbol and the freaking black sun! People having been accused of nazism in the US or Europe for way less than that. The implication of US in the Maiden Revolution, which is one root of the problem, is also documented in serious newspapers[2]. [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9giment_Azov#/media/Fichier:Emblem_of_the_Azov_Battalion.svg https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9giment_Azov#/media/Fich... [2] https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/ukraine-la-cia-en-sous-main-05-05-2014-1819233_24.php https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/ukraine-la-cia-en-sous-main-05-...
- yakshaving_jgt 2y ago“I am a Nazi.” — Alexey Milchakov, field commander of the Rusich neo-Nazi paramilitary group in russia. The war was never about Nazism. The russians use the word “Nazi” to describe anyone who opposes russia. The official russian position on WWII is that it started in 1941 (when Operation Barbarossa started, and not the invasion of Poland), and russia’s official position is that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact never existed. Russia is full of Nazis, and the russians were allied with Nazi Germany in WWII. The war in Ukraine today is not about Naziism.
- mingus88 2y agoI think we often forget that Russian propaganda is also often aimed at Russians and not the west. Nazis invaded Russia and calling their neighbors Nazis is meant to invoke fear and imminent danger to the Russian people. It’s a completely different vibe than calling right wingers Nazis in the US
- aguaviva 2y agoIt also feeds into their "Ukraine is not really a country" narrative. Because how do we know it's not really a country? Because it's overrun with zombies (Nazis), of course.
- seadan83 2y agoMore akin to WWII.. not vietnam. The US was reluctant to join, and was home to millions who were quite happy with Hitler. [1][2] "In 1940, a group of Yale University students founded the America First Committee to oppose US intervention in the European war." [1] "In its various expressions, the pro-Nazi stance during those years was mostly focused not on creating an active military alliance with Germany or bringing the U.S. under Nazi control (something Hitler himself thought wouldn’t be possible) but rather on keeping the U.S. out of war in Europe." [2] [1] https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans-and-the-holocaust/main/america-first-committee-2 https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans-and-the-holocaust/ma... [2] https://time.com/5414055/american-nazi-sympathy-book/ https://time.com/5414055/american-nazi-sympathy-book/
- shiroiushi 2y agoI wonder what all those pro-Hitler Americans had to say in the years and decades after WWII.
- OkayBuddy44 2y ago[flagged]
- adamnemecek 2y ago"Hitler was fighting American expansionism".
- onedognight 2y agoRemember when he said he had personal knowledge about Seth Rich, I.e. lying to further a Russian disinformation campaign? I do.
- zoklet-enjoyer 2y agoSo what? First of all, was that even a Russian disinformation campaign? Second, and more importantly, so what? Imagine you're fighting the government of a powerful country that's trying to imprison you because they said you committed some crimes when you never even visited that country. Wouldn't you do anything you could to try and discredit them? Kim is fighting for his life.
- onedognight 2y ago> was that even a Russian disinformation campaign? According to a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report and the prosecutor on the case[0], it originated with a document from the SVR. > So what? People (like Dotcom, who chose to pretend he had evidence), organizations (like Fox, etc who pushed this daily for months with zero evidence) and governments (like Russia’s who try to divide the U.S. by using freedom of speech as a weapon) who seek to muddy the waters of our collective information pool are scourges and should be treated as such. [0] https://thehill.com/homenews/media/452157-russias-foreign-intelligence-service-secretly-planted-fake-report-that-seth/ https://thehill.com/homenews/media/452157-russias-foreign-in...
- lern_too_spel 2y agoMao didn't start the war in Vietnam.
- JasserInicide 2y agoYeah...it's pretty hilarious how the American left is now the pro-war side and being against it and not wanting more war after over 2 decades of it means you're a Russian asset.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 2y agoThe American left has always been against every war* * Except for the war that was happening at that time
- tim333 2y agoIt's funny how the American right used to proud of standing up to Hitler but now in a similar situation some are like yeah the invaders are cool.
- eadmund 2y ago> I feel like the people protesting the Vietnam war would be regarded by the current online zeitgeist as “pro-Mao”. Many of them were extremely strong supporters of Ho Chi Minh (they used to call him the Vietnamese George Washington), the Viet Cong and — yes — even Mao. Mao’s ‘little red book’ was a popular accessory for anti-war protesters of the time.
- Gud 2y agoWhich he was though? Ho Chi Minh definitely wasn't the bad guy in the Vietnam war.
- stickfigure 2y agoIn some wars, they're all bad guys.
- eadmund 2y agoHe was definitely a bad guy for most of his political life. Whether he was the worst guy is debatable.
- piva00 2y ago> When you say pro-Putin, do you mean actually pro-Putin or just for ending the war in Ukraine? Any suggestion to end the war involving Ukraine's capitulation (giving territories, being blocked from joining NATO or other defensive alliances, etc.) is being pro-Putin. It's quite exhausting to read people like you parroting the "end the war in Ukraine" euphemism to mean "give in to Putin's demands". Chamberlain would be proud...
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- claaams 2y agoYeah when he started simping for elon musk I do not care what befalls him. Mega was good for piracy back in the day, and maybe still is today.
- zoklet-enjoyer 2y ago[flagged]
- cynicalsecurity 2y agoOkay, my hero lived long enough to become a villain. That's sad, but this happens. Maybe he hopes for Russia to give me asylum? The KGB rule is much worse than he can even imagine though.
- shiroiushi 2y ago>Okay, my hero lived long enough to become a villain. That's sad, but this happens. Yep, definitely not the first time. Just look at Scott Adams.
- Loughla 2y agoGod Scott Adams. What a disappointment. The Joy of Work should be required reading for every new college graduate.
- znpy 2y ago> Okay, my hero lived long enough to become a villain. That's sad, but this happens. Every hero ultimately becomes a villain in the current society, because current society cannot withstand people having different opinions from us. If we cannot accept different opinions, what's even the point of having heroes ?
- tim333 2y agoHe always was a villain. "He was arrested in 1994 for trafficking in stolen phone calling card numbers" (wikipedia) just a fun loving, movie pirating criminal for a while.
- moralestapia 2y agoAn increasingly common issue in this infantilized society. "I'm not friends with Jacob because he likes celebrity A and I like celebrity B".
- latentsea 2y agoIs Putin celebrity A or celebrity B here?
- moralestapia 2y agoYour pick!
- yakshaving_jgt 2y agoThat is indeed a problem. That is not what is happening here with Dotcom though. Kim Dotcom spreads misinformation and in doing so provides justification for russia’s invasion and genocide in Ukraine. It’s no different from someone saying about WWII that the Jews had it coming. https://www.voanews.com/a/fact-check-pro-russian-falsehoods-kim-dotcom/6743375.html https://www.voanews.com/a/fact-check-pro-russian-falsehoods-...
- moralestapia 2y ago[flagged]