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They went deep down the wrong path and need to justify their mistake. Waymo will be killed off any day now.
by jaimex2 2y ago
They went deep down the wrong path and need to justify their mistake. Waymo will be killed off any day now.
- bobsomers 2y agoThat's a bold claim. Care to justify it?
- jaimex2 2y agoYeah, it only works in extremely controlled environments driving really slowly. The design is also flawed as it has to work with cameras anyway. The last thing you want is two systems arguing over what they see.
- Infinitesimus 2y agoIt doesn't have to be an argument. You know what each system is good at and prioritize inputs accordingly.
- ra7 2y agoExtremely controlled environments like the entire city of San Francisco? Sensor fusion is a thing. There are no two systems that “argue with each other”. I can’t believe the same old ignorant tropes are still making rounds.
- coolspot 2y agoWaymos don’t drive slowly, I don’t know where you’re getting this from. If anything, they drive too fast for a thing without a driver.
- adamweld 2y agoNice, you just outed yourself as being completely clueless. There exist many good sensor fusion techniques for summing the output of disagreeing sensors.
- jaimex2 2y agoSounds like bad designs. If you can get rid of something to reduce complexity you absolutely should.
- olabyne 2y agoDid you forget why the 737 max had 2 crashs ? The alert of the difference between 2 sensors didn't work / wasn't there. So the system was relying on 1 sensor.
- ra7 2y agoExcept when getting rid of something results in a non-working system. Reduced complexity doesn't work as evidenced by Tesla's inability to have a single driverless mile after nearly a decade of development.
- ra7 2y agoGoogle killing off Waymo by giving them $5.6B just a few weeks ago!
- JaggedJax 2y agoFrom person experience, the state of the art Tesla vision FSD still can't drive east at sunrise, west at sunset, or in moderate rain. I haven't seen any sign of them solving that fundamental problem with vision, especially given there are existing non-vision solutions.
- UltraSane 2y agoI find opinions like this to be almost as crazy as saying that the earth is flat because Waymo has a working, truly self-driving taxi service RIGHT FREAKING NOW while Musk is still promising to have one some day in the hazy future while NEVER making a single vehicle that can actually drive without someone in the car. Musk rejecting LIDAR means that he fundamentally doesn't understand the technological challenge of self-driving despite have access to the world's experts OR he is cynically using false promises of self-driving to pump up Tesla share price. I know which one I think is true.
- altacc 2y agoI think anyone who listens to Musk talking about something they themselves know a lot about quickly realises that Musk's skills are elsewhere. He can motivate and market the hell out of a business whilst snorting more ketamine than a herd of horses but he is not a technical genius by any means. He pays people well to agree with him and fires them when they don't, so I suspect that his companies that produce better and more stable products do so because he micromanages them less.
- mavhc 2y agoIt's weird that what he does is so easy yet no one else is making EVs at scale in USA, or landing rockets, 10 years after SpaceX did it
- jaimex2 2y agoIt doesn't. It has a party trick that works in very specific conditions.