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Jail is too expensive. What we need is actually very close to what halifax is doing. We need to legalize encampments, we just have to do it in very limited area

Jail is too expensive. What we need is actually very close to what halifax is doing. We need to legalize encampments, we just have to do it in very limited areas. The city buys a large empty field on the outskirts of town and makes the homeless to go there. Clear any other encampments routinely. This also makes it much easier for charities to help the homeless since theyre all in one place. 24/7 police presence at the new encampment. Will be tough for the people who live close to the field but its the best way to minimize the impact.

015a 2y ago
Functionally; like skid row? Certainly, that hasn't worked out well for LA; because it literally just doesn't work. Even many homeless don't want to live in places like this, because they inevitably become extremely unsafe, because the idea that a 24/7 police presence has a significant positive impact or is even possible is a fantasy. Police become jaded overnight, like trying to mop up the ocean. No one in the public (read: voters, taxpayers) would support a place like this in their backyard, for good reason. A person pitches a tent ten blocks away; what does the city do? Forcibly move them? They're back ten blocks away the next day. Repeat. Prison being too expensive is, to be fair, true, but a problem local to only some states, and a different problem that we should be motived to solve independent of whether its a tool in the solution of this problem. But, beyond that, maybe my point is more generally (and contentiously) stated as: I believe homelessness should be a crime whose punishment involves the forfeiture of the person's freedom of movement and work. That's a general way of saying "prison" and that's fine, but I'm comfortable stating that governments need to think about building a (undesirable, forced) path toward finding a home for these people, and making them work to earn it. If a homeless person walks this path, gets to their freedom, and reverts back to being homeless again; well, its a revolving door, but at least its one which rotates over a span of years instead of days, and its one that makes a good faith attempt toward rehabilitation.
- HDThoreaun 2y ago
  Skid row doesn’t work in LA because there is no organization and it’s set up right in the heart of town. I’m talking something like skid row but set it up out in the desert by Palm Springs or Palmdale. Anyone encamping anywhere else gets bussed out there. Repeat offenders would have to be jailed yea. Obviously they’re not going to like it but I don’t really care tbh

015a 2y ago

Functionally; like skid row? Certainly, that hasn't worked out well for LA; because it literally just doesn't work. Even many homeless don't want to live in places like this, because they inevitably become extremely unsafe, because the idea that a 24/7 police presence has a significant positive impact or is even possible is a fantasy. Police become jaded overnight, like trying to mop up the ocean. No one in the public (read: voters, taxpayers) would support a place like this in their backyard, for good reason. A person pitches a tent ten blocks away; what does the city do? Forcibly move them? They're back ten blocks away the next day. Repeat. Prison being too expensive is, to be fair, true, but a problem local to only some states, and a different problem that we should be motived to solve independent of whether its a tool in the solution of this problem. But, beyond that, maybe my point is more generally (and contentiously) stated as: I believe homelessness should be a crime whose punishment involves the forfeiture of the person's freedom of movement and work. That's a general way of saying "prison" and that's fine, but I'm comfortable stating that governments need to think about building a (undesirable, forced) path toward finding a home for these people, and making them work to earn it. If a homeless person walks this path, gets to their freedom, and reverts back to being homeless again; well, its a revolving door, but at least its one which rotates over a span of years instead of days, and its one that makes a good faith attempt toward rehabilitation.

HDThoreaun 2y ago
Skid row doesn’t work in LA because there is no organization and it’s set up right in the heart of town. I’m talking something like skid row but set it up out in the desert by Palm Springs or Palmdale. Anyone encamping anywhere else gets bussed out there. Repeat offenders would have to be jailed yea. Obviously they’re not going to like it but I don’t really care tbh