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If it started with "Bush gives himself..." I think I'd be doing the same thing I'm doing now. That is, sit here wondering how exactly anyone is interpreting thi

If it started with "Bush gives himself..." I think I'd be doing the same thing I'm doing now. That is, sit here wondering how exactly anyone is interpreting this executive order the way the headline frames it. The truthiness ranks right up there with "death panels."

nirvana 14y ago
There really are death panels in obamacare. I read the bill before it was made secret, when this issue was brought out. The bill creates committees which decide who gets health care and who is left to die. That's a plain fact. The response to airing of this fact is that Obama, et al. started spinning it as an objection to "end of life counseling". In other words, they lied about what the criticism was about, and once they did it all the liberals started acting like it was absurd to complain about "death panels". There are people who I've met who bring up "Death panels" as an absurd complaint who don't even know that the bill creates committees who regulate who gets health care and who doen't. (not "is this treatment effective" but "should retired people get this treatment since they are no longer paying taxes?" with the stated political purpose of letting those who aren't paying taxes die. The major objection brought up time and time again from the left was that "society" was "wasting money on old people".) So here's the tragedy: There are so many people who have heard such propaganda that they won't even consider the fact that there are death panels because they've been told it was a lie. Even though it was right there in black and white for anyone to read in the bill (before it was made secret until passage.)
- justinschuh 14y ago
  I can't tell from your comment history if you're a pathological liar or just a really persistent troll.
jinushaun 14y ago
Every time Fox News gets riled up by something Obama does, I always ask myself, how would I feel if Bush/Cheney did the same thing? In this case, I don't have a problem with the executive order.

nirvana 14y ago

There really are death panels in obamacare. I read the bill before it was made secret, when this issue was brought out. The bill creates committees which decide who gets health care and who is left to die. That's a plain fact. The response to airing of this fact is that Obama, et al. started spinning it as an objection to "end of life counseling". In other words, they lied about what the criticism was about, and once they did it all the liberals started acting like it was absurd to complain about "death panels". There are people who I've met who bring up "Death panels" as an absurd complaint who don't even know that the bill creates committees who regulate who gets health care and who doen't. (not "is this treatment effective" but "should retired people get this treatment since they are no longer paying taxes?" with the stated political purpose of letting those who aren't paying taxes die. The major objection brought up time and time again from the left was that "society" was "wasting money on old people".) So here's the tragedy: There are so many people who have heard such propaganda that they won't even consider the fact that there are death panels because they've been told it was a lie. Even though it was right there in black and white for anyone to read in the bill (before it was made secret until passage.)

justinschuh 14y ago
I can't tell from your comment history if you're a pathological liar or just a really persistent troll.

jinushaun 14y ago

Every time Fox News gets riled up by something Obama does, I always ask myself, how would I feel if Bush/Cheney did the same thing? In this case, I don't have a problem with the executive order.