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You have the right to free movement on public land. You may bring belongings with you. The government has essentially no power to evict or prevent homelessness.

You have the right to free movement on public land. You may bring belongings with you. The government has essentially no power to evict or prevent homelessness. This is a nationwide problem caused by the federal government. I very much disbelieve that Halifax only has 200 homeless. Completely impossible, implying someone is murdering the homeless or the city falsified this number. The latter being where im going. It's very sad to me that we allow our federal government to do this to our fellow citizens. We imminently need an election.

kspacewalk2 2y ago
>It's very sad to me that we allow our federal government to do this to our fellow citizens. We imminently need an election. What specifically will a conservative government do differently/better?
- incomingpain 2y ago
  there were some homeless issues during the financial crisis during Harper. Lets not politicize needlessly. We know homelessness is a crisis now and not from many decades of low to no homeless issues. Exception being above. So whats the supply demand if it were a free market? World war level immigration numbers attempting to blitz the 2030 worker shortage problem. Leading to a large increase to demand. Smart long term, but short term we now have significant consequences. https://www.blogto.com/city/2024/01/25-international-students-basement-brampton/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2024/01/25-international-student... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/death-to-canada-vancouver-rally-1.7346760 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/death-to-can... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/failed-to-protect-hindus-canadian-leaders-after-khalistani-attack-on-hindu-sabha-mandir-women-kids-beaten-101730683160210.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/failed-to-protect-... But the federal government also intentionally and heavily decreased supply. Carbon tax greatly impacts mining, concrete operations, lumberjacks, etc. A regressive tax that's in each cycle doing increasing damage to the economy. We are getting uncharacteristic tax breaks and shameless $250, not because of any attempt to buy votes, but because the economy is collapsing. Major productivity crisis. But worse yet... 5% interest rates on mortgages? The entire real estate market, which is highly manipulated by the federal government has some extreme consequences that need to be addressed. The winner of the next election can simply stop doing the above and it should solve the problem.
IncreasePosts 2y ago
I don't think park curfews have ever been found to be unconstitutional
- incomingpain 2y ago
  If you curfew all the parks, which government can do. It means all the homeless will be on the steps of city hall or any sidewalk anywhere. Steps of city hall will be the one place you can never ever curfew or otherwise hinder access to. Short of emergencies act, but Canadian taxpayers will now foot the bill of $2million for each ottawa protestor. So hows those park curfews working out? Not many implemented eh?
  - IncreasePosts 2y ago
    How can a park have a curfew, based on the first sentence of your previous post: "You have the right to free movement on public land". Isn't a park curfew restricting free movement on public land?
    - incomingpain 2y ago
      The discussion we're having is the "demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society" exception to our charter. In my opinion that exception needs to be removed asap, yet here we are. The quebec covid curfew for example was found to be unconstitutional and the government decided to give itself 'exceptional circumstances raised by public health' just so they dont have to pay $ to each person who ever received one of the fines. This will almost certainly be wiped out on appeal. Quebec will likely have to pay close to a billion ultimately in the next decade. Though in the meantime, the CAQ have essentially committed political suicide having done this. PQ leader simply challenging the effectiveness of the curfew and opposing. The CAQ are going to lose the next election because of this and other issues.
      - IncreasePosts 2y ago
        I apologize - when you said "You have the right to free movement on public land", I assumed the statement was related to the reality in Canada, and not some hypothetical society.

kspacewalk2 2y ago

>It's very sad to me that we allow our federal government to do this to our fellow citizens. We imminently need an election. What specifically will a conservative government do differently/better?

incomingpain 2y ago
there were some homeless issues during the financial crisis during Harper. Lets not politicize needlessly. We know homelessness is a crisis now and not from many decades of low to no homeless issues. Exception being above. So whats the supply demand if it were a free market? World war level immigration numbers attempting to blitz the 2030 worker shortage problem. Leading to a large increase to demand. Smart long term, but short term we now have significant consequences. https://www.blogto.com/city/2024/01/25-international-students-basement-brampton/ https://www.blogto.com/city/2024/01/25-international-student... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/death-to-canada-vancouver-rally-1.7346760 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/death-to-can... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/failed-to-protect-hindus-canadian-leaders-after-khalistani-attack-on-hindu-sabha-mandir-women-kids-beaten-101730683160210.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/failed-to-protect-... But the federal government also intentionally and heavily decreased supply. Carbon tax greatly impacts mining, concrete operations, lumberjacks, etc. A regressive tax that's in each cycle doing increasing damage to the economy. We are getting uncharacteristic tax breaks and shameless $250, not because of any attempt to buy votes, but because the economy is collapsing. Major productivity crisis. But worse yet... 5% interest rates on mortgages? The entire real estate market, which is highly manipulated by the federal government has some extreme consequences that need to be addressed. The winner of the next election can simply stop doing the above and it should solve the problem.

IncreasePosts 2y ago

I don't think park curfews have ever been found to be unconstitutional

incomingpain 2y ago
If you curfew all the parks, which government can do. It means all the homeless will be on the steps of city hall or any sidewalk anywhere. Steps of city hall will be the one place you can never ever curfew or otherwise hinder access to. Short of emergencies act, but Canadian taxpayers will now foot the bill of $2million for each ottawa protestor. So hows those park curfews working out? Not many implemented eh?
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  How can a park have a curfew, based on the first sentence of your previous post: "You have the right to free movement on public land". Isn't a park curfew restricting free movement on public land?
  - incomingpain 2y ago
    The discussion we're having is the "demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society" exception to our charter. In my opinion that exception needs to be removed asap, yet here we are. The quebec covid curfew for example was found to be unconstitutional and the government decided to give itself 'exceptional circumstances raised by public health' just so they dont have to pay $ to each person who ever received one of the fines. This will almost certainly be wiped out on appeal. Quebec will likely have to pay close to a billion ultimately in the next decade. Though in the meantime, the CAQ have essentially committed political suicide having done this. PQ leader simply challenging the effectiveness of the curfew and opposing. The CAQ are going to lose the next election because of this and other issues.
    - IncreasePosts 2y ago
      I apologize - when you said "You have the right to free movement on public land", I assumed the statement was related to the reality in Canada, and not some hypothetical society.